https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-shelby-gt500-21/
My listing...FYI...happy to answer any questions you guys might have in the comment section or through email. vestes85(AT)gmail(DOT)com
Good Luck!
Thanks Pete!
Always fun to do a little sparring in the comment section...keeps me sharp ;D
You have a high tolerance . That will wear off....
The description says that this car came originally with over the top stripes........
:)
May want to consider hiding the Ford VIN shown on the Marti report.
Quote from: 6T6/7 on September 07, 2023, 05:55:54 PM
May want to consider hiding the Ford VIN shown on the Marti report.
Two schools of though on that in recent years.
Choice #1- Is to hide and protect the Ford VIN from others so that no one else can make a copy of your car and claim its the original. Still doesn't stop the "bad guys". As far as I know this has been the policy SAAC has promoted for decades.
Choice #2- Share the VIN publicly with pictures and documentation to hopefully prove or at least document that you have "that" car as of date of the posting of the information, in an effort to reduce the chance that "bad guys" won't choose to fake a car publicly shared and hope they choose an unknown or less publicly known car instead.
Of course, by itself, a set of numbers stamped on any car unibody or drivetrain is only one part of the confirmation process every purchaser should go through to provide a comfort level they are comfortable with.
Quote from: J_Speegle on September 07, 2023, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: 6T6/7 on September 07, 2023, 05:55:54 PM
May want to consider hiding the Ford VIN shown on the Marti report.
Two schools of though on that in recent years.
Choice #1- Is to hide and protect the Ford VIN from others so that no one else can make a copy of your car and claim its the original. Still doesn't stop the "bad guys". As far as I know this has been the policy SAAC has promoted for decades.
Choice #2- Share the VIN publicly with pictures and documentation to hopefully prove or at least document that you have "that" car as of date of the posting of the information, in an effort to reduce the chance that "bad guys" won't choose to fake a car publicly shared and hope they choose an unknown or less publicly known car instead.
Of course, by itself, a set of numbers stamped on any car unibody or drivetrain is only one part of the confirmation process every purchaser should go through to provide a comfort level they are comfortable with.
If you look at the comment on the bottom of the this 67s Marti report it says SAAC and Keven recommend you hide the Ford vin if you publicly display the Marti report. I'm on the display side of both.
Quote from: Bigfoot on September 07, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
The description says that this car came originally with over the top stripes........
:)
Biggie the ad writers are horrendous. I have many times told BaT I would be more than happy when I retire to write their Ford ads. On 1969 Mustangs the ads say many time center fog lights or driving lights in the grill. SMH
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 08, 2023, 08:45:48 AM
If you look at the comment on the bottom of the this 67s Marti report it says SAAC and Keven recommend you hide the Ford vin if you publicly display the Marti report. I'm on the display side of both.
Yes, have seen that. But of course that is an opinion and the choice is left to the owner.
Not suggesting that owners do post the VINs but haven't seen an example yet of where posting them created or encouraged a copy or fake but would be interested if someone has evidence that it has.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 08, 2023, 08:49:14 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on September 07, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
The description says that this car came originally with over the top stripes........
:)
Biggie the ad writers are horrendous. I have many times told BaT I would be more than happy when I retire to write their Ford ads. On 1969 Mustangs the ads say many time center fog lights or driving lights in the grill. SMH
Hey Gary, long time no see.
Can't the seller provide edits to the listing before it's posted?
Edits on BaT by the Seller are mostly limited to corrections and items 100% proven by hard evidence in my experience with my listings. They do not let you write your ad. I have tried to make changes and they reply for me to enter comments after the listing goes live. Then I can mention anything I think important. That puts the burden back on the seller I assume. I am sure there are liability concerns involved, but I think they can go too far. Like my partner says "we can always start our own online auction and do it our way".
^^
I would've gone with the edit, were it possible regarding the stripes. Because we can prove that 100%.
I would like to formally apologize for missing this "over the top" and glaring detail while the auction was in its draft phase.
I am, after-all, just a dumb ole used car dealer.
I regret that this severe oversight has caused so many of those viewing the auction such mental anguish.
Sincerely,
Vern ;D
Quote from: Vernon Estes on September 08, 2023, 11:56:00 PM
I would like to formally apologize for missing this "over the top" and glaring detail while the auction was in its draft phase.
I am, after-all, just a dumb ole used car dealer.
I regret that this severe oversight has caused so many of those viewing the auction such mental anguish.
Sincerely,
Vern ;D
Life is good when old Mustangs are the source of ones mental anguish.
Quote from: Bigfoot on September 08, 2023, 02:22:37 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 08, 2023, 08:49:14 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on September 07, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
The description says that this car came originally with over the top stripes........
:)
Biggie the ad writers are horrendous. I have many times told BaT I would be more than happy when I retire to write their Ford ads. On 1969 Mustangs the ads say many time center fog lights or driving lights in the grill. SMH
Hey Gary, long time no see.
Can't the seller provide edits to the listing before it's posted?
What Bob(Paparazzi) said. Another friend also named Bob has sold a few lately and told me that you can do corrections but then that takes extra time before your car is ran and most sellers don't do those corrections.
Quote from: Vernon Estes on September 08, 2023, 11:56:00 PM
I would like to formally apologize for missing this "over the top" and glaring detail while the auction was in its draft phase.
I am, after-all, just a dumb ole used car dealer.
I regret that this severe oversight has caused so many of those viewing the auction such mental anguish.
Sincerely,
Vern ;D
I like your comment but that deal with the over head console brings out a glaring somewhat common occurrence on BaT auctions and that is exactly what are these description editors looking at when they write your ad? Number one there has been a boatload of 67s on BaT and not one has ever had an overhead console so how in the heck did it get into the description? I know it wasn't from you. Call it a hunch but I have come to the conclusion that while this is a car based site many who work for BaT are not car people.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 09, 2023, 06:24:18 AM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on September 08, 2023, 11:56:00 PM
I would like to formally apologize for missing this "over the top" and glaring detail while the auction was in its draft phase.
I am, after-all, just a dumb ole used car dealer.
I regret that this severe oversight has caused so many of those viewing the auction such mental anguish.
Sincerely,
Vern ;D
I like your comment but that deal with the over head console brings out a glaring somewhat common occurrence on BaT auctions and that is exactly what are these description editors looking at when they write your ad? Number one there has been a boatload of 67s on BaT and not one has ever had an overhead console so how in the heck did it get into the description? I know it wasn't from you. Call it a hunch but I have come to the conclusion that while this is a car based site many who work for BaT are not car people.
Frankly, as a seller on BaT..I've never been all that concerned with what the description says....real bidders read the comments. That's where all the important information ends up being posted. Additionally, you are correct that the descriptions themselves...they all follow the same basic formula...sort of a canned write up by design by BaT. BaT currently is selling well over 100 cars per day of every different kind. While BaT as a company does have a great deal of "car people" working for them...I think it is an unreasonable expectation for them to have a real authority in every brand of sub category of the hobby.
Great people though and really fun to work with.....they do their best to accurately describe the car while also not "getting into trouble" with what some sellers "want" their description to say vs. what BaT is willing to go out on the ledge for.
Ill send a note to BaT about the stripe issue in the description...dont know if they will change it or not.
Kind regards,
Vern
I always find these sales interesting. It makes me wonder exactly what buyers are looking for in a car? That seems confusing to me.
For instance, if there are ANY modifications from "as delivered to the dealer" from SA, what level is acceptable or even desirable to them?
It would seem some are collecting memorabilia and put it on a shelf like a miniature that they would also buy and there are those that want to drive the car and skip to what makes them drive better?
Certainly in an era of new $250,000 "drivers" that might be expected, at least by me. It certainly exists in the new car market. What makes me think that it does not in the "classic" market?
Quote from: shelbydoug on September 09, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
I always find these sales interesting. It makes me wonder exactly what buyers are looking for in a car? That seems confusing to me.
For instance, if there are ANY modifications from "as delivered to the dealer" from SA, what level is acceptable or even desirable to them?
It would seem some are collecting memorabilia and put it on a shelf like a miniature that they would also buy and there are those that want to drive the car and skip to what makes them drive better?
Certainly in an era of new $250,000 "drivers" that might be expected, at least by me. It certainly exists in the new car market. What makes me think that it does not in the "classic" market?
Many types of Buyers. I just did the Friday night Frankenmuth autofest where they had cars angle parked for a 2 mile stretch on Main street. I'd bet a very small percentage of these cars were bone stock and a lot more heavily modified. I saw a row of Vettes 56-67 that everyone but one had an LS under the hood. Some I was guessing 200-300K cars as high end restomods. Rat Rods, too many roots supercharged cars to count. A tubbed out Boss 351. To me the "stock" car culture is very small compared to the whole. I love shows like this because of the creativity on the builds and the fact that some you could jump into and drive across the country but still have the classic car look. Maybe someone will buy this GT500. Drop a fuel injection unit on it and do the power tour next year. You never know with so many types of buyers out there.
Everything is in the details....
This is a very nice car, good luck Vern! And good to see so many old friends here.
Attention to detail is everything