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Deals and Appeals => Wanted to Buy => Topic started by: Mustang 66 on September 25, 2023, 05:27:41 PM

Title: TVR Griffith
Post by: Mustang 66 on September 25, 2023, 05:27:41 PM
Look n 4 1962-63-64-65-66-67 -68-69-70-71-72 TVR Griffith, Vixen,Grantura Tuscan or m series
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: davez on September 25, 2023, 08:37:47 PM
https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/d/millsboro-1965-griffith-200-tvr/7668900227.html
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: 68stangcjfb on September 26, 2023, 05:48:21 AM
Does anyone know the address of the original place in Plainview NY?
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: tesgt350 on September 26, 2023, 06:36:04 AM
There was a White one in Pensacola that would enter the Mustang & Ford Show there when it was at the Mall in March.  The owner said Shelby was involved in their Production like the Tiger.  Not sure it that is true or not.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: shelbydoug on September 26, 2023, 08:45:35 AM
Here is a link that discusses the location.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=9&t=1784648

To my knowledge Shelby was never involved in the TVR/Griffith conversion.

The cars have a history of being dangerous and unpredictable handling wise under power.

There are several deceased previous owners that I had met in the '70s at local SOA meets. Not deceased from natural causes. Deceased as in getting killed in the cars.

For me, they are just too small to fit into comfortably although I always liked them personally.

I think the 200 and 400, basically being just TVR conversions could have used more development time but they did turn into TVR going in house with a V8 powered car eventually and the Italia did begin there as well.

I looked for one about 15 years ago and could only find a few available in the US. Good luck with your search. No one seems to really know exactly what is left out there now.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: pbf777 on September 26, 2023, 10:51:01 AM
       Here's another:   https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1965-griffith-series-200-bedford-hills-ny-2680744

       Scott.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: shelbydoug on September 26, 2023, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: pbf777 on September 26, 2023, 10:51:01 AM
       Here's another:   https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1965-griffith-series-200-bedford-hills-ny-2680744

       Scott.

This is Nick Saprano's place. He's about 35-40 minutes from me. He always has interesting cars available.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: 68stangcjfb on September 26, 2023, 11:59:39 AM
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on September 26, 2023, 05:48:21 AM
Does anyone know the address of the original place in Plainview NY?
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141 Eileen Way, Syosset, and then 1478 Old Country Road, Plainview, both are close to the (White-)Griffith Ford dealership in Hicksville NY.

Those addresses are about 10 minutes from me!
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: Mustang 66 on September 26, 2023, 12:40:53 PM
Should do like they hav done with cobras make continuation TVR Griffith or vixens or replicas
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: wcampbell on September 26, 2023, 01:40:29 PM
A few things to consider...

- 190ish made of the Series 200 mostly if not all titled as 1965
- Value is driven somewhat by the drivetrain you had (271HP or 225 HP)
- Early cars (pre car #35 where almost all 289 HIPOs) with the HIPO being an option therefore after
- No designation is given on the title of car identification tag about drivetrain
- The only way to determine if it's an original 289 HP drivetrain is if you have the original close ratio top loader that came in the car (otherwise it's wide ratio)
- Original TVR rear differentials are pretty weak and so it's not uncommon to see a swap for something stronger
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: wcampbell on September 26, 2023, 01:43:05 PM
I see a question of Shelby being involved - he wasn't other than a lunch with Jack Griffith were a tipsy and emboldened Jack declared his car could outrun a COBRA if he built it. The Griffith 200 was born with the help of Mark Donahue (of TRANS AM and COBRA racing fame) who was driving a 289 COBRA for Jack Griffith at the time. The cars were advertised to go 0-60 in 3.6 seconds, or they were free and they lived up to that claim. Unfortunately, being nothing but a good salesman Jack Griffith didn't see the need nor have the resources to refine the Griffith like Shelby whom used both Miles and Remington to refine the COBRA. Wire wheels remained and additional "speed and handling" equipment we saw added under Shelby's company did not take place under Jack's. In fact, Jack had money issues which led to the untimely demise of Griffith motorcars. You see today what the additional R&D on torque steer and suspension mods have yielded in Griffith during vintage race competition where they dominate COBRAs at places like Goodwood. A great vision and dream Jack had, but poor execution of the vision led to the Griffith's end.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: Mustang 66 on September 26, 2023, 02:09:29 PM
Still think someone needs to make replicas
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: wcampbell on September 26, 2023, 02:41:37 PM
And that has been attempted at some level by Mike Mooney - the current Griffith historian and registrar. Not sure where it lies today, but about 5 years ago he told me he was having a dozen or so chassis made to sell roller chassis "continuation" type cars.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: Mustang 66 on September 27, 2023, 09:11:58 PM
Would u know how to get n touch with him?
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: wcampbell on September 28, 2023, 03:36:47 PM
mike@griffithyears.com
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: daltondavid on October 19, 2023, 03:49:19 PM
somewhere in my posts is a picture of Paul Goldschmidts Griffith that he took for a ride around the block and rolled it.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: tesgt350 on October 19, 2023, 04:16:55 PM
This one is on Ebay...............

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186095238517?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230811123856%26meid%3D87b997932d714d67aa88ff8aa934c60d%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D186095238517%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3A01883f3a18b0ac6f424f5bfaffffc29c%7Cpageci%3Aedc0d374-63bd-11ee-b957-c25f08bbd145%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: pbf777 on October 19, 2023, 08:19:18 PM
     Just a note:

     The eBay TVR is listed as a 5000M car; I contacted the seller a couple of weeks ago inquiring as to if there was any documentation as to the validity of this being an actual 5000M car?   :-\

     The response from the seller was:  "It is not one of the 8 original cars".    :(

     Scott.
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: shelbydoug on October 20, 2023, 07:06:15 PM
Are the factory TVR v8's any more stable then the original Griffith done cars are?
Title: Re: TVR Griffith
Post by: pbf777 on October 20, 2023, 08:07:41 PM
     The Tuscans and then the 5000M's V8 cars were longer, wider and heavier, so yes, they would be more stable.  :)

     Scott.