9F03R480135
https://abetter.bid/en/1053043492-1969-ford-shelby
Looks like some parts were taken off before the insurance company adjuster showed up. If you have stated value on a car and take parts off of it before the adjuster shows up is that OK? Did the parts disappear between payout and 14 months to this point. Asking for a friend. Too bad the parts are gone. Car doesn't run without the Shelby console in there unless rewired but don't think it will start anyways...
Is there any other info. out there on this one-number match, rust, panel swaps, previous owners etc.
Rule #1.....always have a fire extinguisher in your car......both personal car and collector car
I have personally put out 3 car fires ( others) in the last 5-7 years.
Quote from: SCJSTU on January 23, 2024, 10:34:20 AM
Rule #1.....always have a fire extinguisher in your car......both personal car and collector car
I have personally put out 3 car fires ( others) in the last 5-7 years.
Back seat on the floor. I got 4 in my garage at home. Check gas line hoses periodically.
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 09:41:21 AM
9F03R480135
https://abetter.bid/en/1053043492-1969-ford-shelby
Not a difficult restoration, surprised it was written off.
Bill
Agreed, would be surprised if damage is a third of its original value, even replacing parts and rebuilding motor
Quote from: Survivor on January 23, 2024, 10:27:57 AM
Is there any other info. out there on this one-number match, rust, panel swaps, previous owners etc.
Since it was FLA-SAAC's car maybe Tony can shed some light. Maybe not as he might be bidding on it. Only a few hours north of him in crappy Ft Pierce(stay on the Island portion when visiting).
If that was my car it would have been fixed by now .
or you could have 20000 posts on a forum that are useless.
life is about picking your path .
Agreed on the 20k posts-that aside, all I'm asking for is whether anyone on this Forum has any relevant info. on knowledge on the car before I do/don't decide to bid. The listing and pics are terrible and I don't know the auction house.
Quote from: Survivor on January 23, 2024, 12:12:17 PM
Agreed on the 20k posts-that aside, all I'm asking for is whether anyone on this Forum has any relevant info. on knowledge on the car before I do/don't decide to bid. The listing and pics are terrible and I don't know the auction house.
Have you checked with the 69/70 SAAC registrar?
As for the pictures, while not the greatest, I see some items not stock or original to the car, and may have been done before the last owner had the car, or during their ownership.
Bill
Doing that as we speak.
Has anyone confirmed if the car has a salvage or clear title? Their assistant only answered that it was on the page. All I see is asterisks next to title. Update I created a profile and it came back as Salvage/rebuildable title.
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.
The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?
Funny that all we hear from Florida is crickets.
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.
The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?
My thought is what did the owner have insurance wise? Did he under insure it? Many do. I harp on my friend who has his 71 HEMI Cuda under insured until this week(bringing it to a car show). But my friend has about 17 collector cars and a bunch are 6 figure cars. So say it was under insured at 80K. The insurance company says 75K to fix. Total it out and pay the insured. If this car was insured for 150-200K it wouldn't have been totaled out. Maybe the prior owner would want to chime in? Or maybe too embarrassed to admit it if he did. All I know is this car at what it could have been insured for it should be in all cases be fixed-unless it was under insured and running their numbers the insurance company would total it out.
Fuel pump failure?
Whats that box beside the added oil cooler in grill area lh front ?
I should buy it. My 68 GT500 convert was also #135. But this car is in better condition.
Why doesn't SAAC buy it and restore it, and make it next year's sweepstakes give-away car?
Everyone loves a back-from-the-dead classic car resurrection story.
Quote from: Special Ed on January 23, 2024, 10:27:27 PM
Whats that box beside the added oil cooler in grill area lh front ?
Funny in that the prior owner can post a dozen times a day on nothing but cannot come on this topic and just answer some questions like yours.
Most likely a pee tank for the radiator.
The oil cooler was added to the car as well.
The missing paint by the antenna is a head scratcher
If you want to post the pictures here, I think that would be good reference for later
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 24, 2024, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on January 23, 2024, 10:27:27 PM
Whats that box beside the added oil cooler in grill area lh front ?
Funny in that the prior owner can post a dozen times a day on nothing but cannot come on this topic and just answer some questions like yours.
He did answer with this ::) https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b54nv46k60thkhd2ev03gm3ou1&topic=25751.msg190723#msg190723
Quote from: Lincoln tech on January 24, 2024, 08:46:57 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 24, 2024, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on January 23, 2024, 10:27:27 PM
Whats that box beside the added oil cooler in grill area lh front ?
Funny in that the prior owner can post a dozen times a day on nothing but cannot come on this topic and just answer some questions like yours.
He did answer with this ::) https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b54nv46k60thkhd2ev03gm3ou1&topic=25751.msg190723#msg190723
MODIFIED Jan 23-yesterday. HMM, couldn't do this for the last 14 months? Thanks for bringing that to light but he still hasn't said what led to the fire which another poster asked. Only modified and added to his original post after it became another topic right here. I guess the question is why is that? So to be clear Mr Tech he didn't answer the questions asked here and the one by Ed I quoted.
some pics on the "open" forum for later reference.
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Wheel centers missing...souvenir hunters?!?! ::)
Quote from: 557 on January 24, 2024, 11:58:33 AM
Wheel centers missing...souvenir hunters?!?! ::)
I'm surprised the Shifter Handle is still there.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 23, 2024, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.
The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?
My thought is what did the owner have insurance wise? Did he under insure it? Many do. I harp on my friend who has his 71 HEMI Cuda under insured until this week(bringing it to a car show). But my friend has about 17 collector cars and a bunch are 6 figure cars. So say it was under insured at 80K. The insurance company says 75K to fix. Total it out and pay the insured. If this car was insured for 150-200K it wouldn't have been totaled out. Maybe the prior owner would want to chime in? Or maybe too embarrassed to admit it if he did. All I know is this car at what it could have been insured for it should be in all cases be fixed-unless it was under insured and running their numbers the insurance company would total it out.
When it comes to Insurance Companies, many are now hiring Gen Xers that don't care (or KNOW) about Classic Cars and it's only going to get worse.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 24, 2024, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: Lincoln tech on January 24, 2024, 08:46:57 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 24, 2024, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on January 23, 2024, 10:27:27 PM
Whats that box beside the added oil cooler in grill area lh front ?
Funny in that the prior owner can post a dozen times a day on nothing but cannot come on this topic and just answer some questions like yours.
He did answer with this ::) https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b54nv46k60thkhd2ev03gm3ou1&topic=25751.msg190723#msg190723
MODIFIED Jan 23-yesterday. HMM, couldn't do this for the last 14 months? Thanks for bringing that to light but he still hasn't said what led to the fire which another poster asked. Only modified and added to his original post after it became another topic right here. I guess the question is why is that? So to be clear Mr Tech he didn't answer the questions asked here and the one by Ed I quoted.
I get , but you're only wasting your time with this individual .
Sold-did I see the final correct at $38,500.00
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 24, 2024, 02:16:10 PM
I believe it was more in the high 60s
Thanks. I wasa away for a long meeting. Came back and it said 33,500. I refreshed the screen and got this "SOLD". Even in the 60s was a good buy I'd think.
You had to have a dealer license to bid in the auction. The car did not meet the reserve. The high bidder has a chance to meet the reserve or it will be relisted.
That's not really clear on their website. Look forward to seeing what happens.
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.
The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?
does a rebuildable title requires a new state issued VIN?
I depends on the state. Some states will issue a new title without a brand. Some states will require an inspection before a new title can be issued. I dont think they will change the VIN.
My opinion is there is not enough damage here to significantly effect the end value if its restored with original parts and documented. I think removing the oil cooler and a repaint to the oem color would help a lot as well. Dark Jade, 4spd is a good combination.
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 24, 2024, 04:37:35 PM
You had to have a dealer license to bid in the auction. The car did not meet the reserve. The high bidder has a chance to meet the reserve or it will be relisted.
That's not really clear on their website. Look forward to seeing what happens.
It clearly states down below that you do not have to be a dealer and a comment from a customer says that he is very happy about being able to bid without being one. All but one picture are now gone, kinda interesting.
Roy
Quote from: SCJSTU on January 24, 2024, 04:49:53 PMdoes a rebuildable title requires a new state issued VIN?
Not in most states unless the original tag was damaged. Remember there is only 1 VIN on a car in the location (since 1968) dictated by .gov. All the other locations that have the same number are there as theft deterrents and to identify stolen parts.
Quote from: TA Coupe on January 24, 2024, 06:34:11 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 24, 2024, 04:37:35 PM
You had to have a dealer license to bid in the auction. The car did not meet the reserve. The high bidder has a chance to meet the reserve or it will be relisted.
That's not really clear on their website. Look forward to seeing what happens.
It clearly states down below that you do not have to be a dealer and a comment from a customer says that he is very happy about being able to bid without being one. All but one picture are now gone, kinda interesting.
Roy
That is why I and others screen shot the pics. Posted in prior replies
Quote from: SCJSTU on January 24, 2024, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.
The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?
does a rebuildable title requires a new state issued VIN?
I know in Tallahassee Florida, when I bought a Car from an Auction that said "Rebuildable", I had to take it to the DMV for an Inspection and when it passed, they put a Barcode Sticker under the Factory Sticker.
Quote from: tesgt350 on January 25, 2024, 06:54:13 AM
Quote from: SCJSTU on January 24, 2024, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.
The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?
does a rebuildable title requires a new state issued VIN?
I know in Tallahassee Florida, when I bought a Car from an Auction that said "Rebuildable", I had to take it to the DMV for an Inspection and when it passed, they put a Barcode Sticker under the Factory Sticker.
In Mi the title will say salvage on it with no other numbers other than the VIN if it still has the original one on the car. It also states that these at auction a bidder must possess a dealer license to buy(?). So I wonder if Fla it is the same? https://www.michigan.gov/sos/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/01preston/Dealer_Manual_Chapter_5.pdf?rev=43836d1232814437bb4cb0833eeda376&hash=2C59D8323FCCF327670A5A580160174C#:~:text=a)%20For%20late%20model%20vehicles,the%20pre%2Ddamaged%20cash%20value.
I find the entire auction process with ABB to be totally unclear and even a bit suspicious. Refundable deposit-the higher the deposit the more you can bid. And, if you don't win, you then have to log back on to claim your deposit-no thanks. Terrible listing-no pic. of the dash tag, no underside pics., no info. on block #'s etc. And now you might, might not have to be a "dealer" to bid. Tells me they either don't care, don't know or just don't give a shit. From the listing, I had no idea when the auction was set to start and end and, when I called, the girl told me that the length of the auction depends on the level of interest... might be 30 minutes, might be several hours. Bottom line for anyone interested in the car is that it needs to be inspected (if they'll allow it) and then some thorough homework done on the legalities of the deposit and bidding process. Just another f-up auction house that churns and burns their inventory with no thought given to what they're actually selling-imo.
Quote from: Survivor on January 25, 2024, 09:15:52 AM
I find the entire auction process with ABB to be totally unclear and even a bit suspicious. Refundable deposit-the higher the deposit the more you can bid. And, if you don't win, you then have to log back on to claim your deposit-no thanks. Terrible listing-no pic. of the dash tag, no underside pics., no info. on block #'s etc. And now you might, might not have to be a "dealer" to bid. Tells me they either don't care, don't know or just don't give a shit. From the listing, I had no idea when the auction was set to start and end and, when I called, the girl told me that the length of the auction depends on the level of interest... might be 30 minutes, might be several hours. Bottom line for anyone interested in the car is that it needs to be inspected (if they'll allow it) and then some thorough homework done on the legalities of the deposit and bidding process. Just another f-up auction house that churns and burns their inventory with no thought given to what they're actually selling-imo.
Insurance / Salvage Auction Companies are not Barrett-Jackson. They don't care about the Car, only to get it sold so they can collect their fees. You're lucky you get the Photos you got. I bought many Rebuildable Vehicle's at Sadisco's when I owned "Tallahassee Mustangs" back in the day and my Business License allowed me to do so. NOW, Sadisco's sold out to Co-Parts and I no longer need a Business License to buy Cars.
Car was sold yesterday, after high bidder accepted offer
Quote from: Survivor on January 25, 2024, 09:15:52 AM... Tells me they either don't care, don't know or just don't give a shit. ......
They don't. The car is the property of the insurance company. They are getting paid to sell it - the insurance company sets the minimum. I'm certain they get paid if it doesn't sell and again every time it doesn't sell. They are just pushing junk sheetmetal and not historians or experts on any type or brand of car.
Plus they often, if not always, get their "storage fee". A daily charge.