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Title: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on May 08, 2024, 11:16:21 AM
For reference, Shelby American called the (plastic?) fittings on each end of the brake hose "Inlet and Outlet Ducts." So that's the term I'm going to use. Some people refer to these as "ferrules."

See attached pictures. The white ducts are original from 6S087. The black duct is supposed to be original from a car in the 600s. I have info on a few cars from previous research efforts, and a pattern is emerging. It looks like Shelby American started out using white ducts and later transitioned to black. I'm trying to confirm that theory and possibly pin down when that occurred. Further data is needed.

If you know what color the original brake ducts are on any 1966 GT350, please let me know the VIN and color of the ducts.

Thanks for any info you can provide on this topic.

Having Fun Every Day,
Steve Sloan


Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: KR500 on May 08, 2024, 01:42:08 PM
2069, Black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: greekz on May 08, 2024, 02:05:02 PM
1134, black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: texas swede on May 08, 2024, 02:28:43 PM
This is a NOS kit I bought in Sweden more than 40 years ago.
The hoses are too short for unknown reasons.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: GT350Lad on May 08, 2024, 04:55:10 PM
I got 2 for you.

6S373 white (I thought where replacement)
6S1276 black

Cheers
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on May 08, 2024, 05:57:26 PM
Thank you to everyone who has replied so far. This is GREAT information!

GT350Lad, your 6S373 is currently the highest VIN car I'm aware of with white ducts. And the only non-carryover with white ducts. Well, so far at least. Hopefully we'll get a lot more participants in this survey.

Steve
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: S7MS427 on May 08, 2024, 06:20:14 PM
I believe that 6S817's are black.  The last time I had the interior out, I didn't notice any white ducts, I would think they would have been noticeable enough for them stick in my memory as being white if they were.
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: GT350Lad on May 08, 2024, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: SFM6S087 on May 08, 2024, 05:57:26 PMThank you to everyone who has replied so far. This is GREAT information!

GT350Lad, your 6S373 is currently the highest VIN car I'm aware of with white ducts. And the only non-carryover with white ducts. Well, so far at least. Hopefully we'll get a lot more participants in this survey.

Steve

I'll check on the weekend Steve, I am only looking at the wheel well side. And not recently. I'll pull a interior panel on weekend
 Could be paint
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: s2ms on May 08, 2024, 07:44:36 PM
1757, black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: FL SAAC on May 08, 2024, 07:53:38 PM
Checked our car out when we first bought it to make sure they had ducts installed, definitely black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on May 08, 2024, 08:51:36 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on May 08, 2024, 07:53:38 PMChecked our car out when we first bought it to make sure they had ducts installed, definitely black

FL SAAC, Which car would that be, please?

Steve
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: shelby 711 on May 08, 2024, 10:58:14 PM
6S711 has black ducts.
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: 6T6/7 on May 09, 2024, 12:05:03 AM
379, black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: J_Speegle on May 09, 2024, 01:06:19 AM
6S007 and 6S27 had white duct ends from what I recall. Will have to check all the others I have pictures of but those two stand out at the moment
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on May 09, 2024, 03:05:21 AM
1431 and 1855 were black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: hertzz350 on May 09, 2024, 06:16:59 AM
1855, 1297, 731, 689 all black.
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: texas swede on May 09, 2024, 10:24:51 AM
923 has black ducts.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: CharlesTurner on May 09, 2024, 12:26:34 PM
6S015, white
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: J_Speegle on May 09, 2024, 05:56:56 PM
Due to time constraints at the moment focused mostly on cars up to 6S1000 but threw in a few after that car because they were easier to locate. Of course some of these examples are restored cars so can't be certain that the ducts are original to the car but few reasons to replace these parts. Hope this helps

White 6S007 - 6S027 - 6S038 - 6S087 - 6S131 - 6S240 -  Possibly 6S253 + 6S320 + 6S392

Black  6S197 - 6S289 - 6S342 - 6S407 - 6S444 - 6S476 - 6S555 - 6S637 - 6S731 - 6S744 - 6S797 - 6S854 - 6S913 - 6S1203 - 6S1235 - 6S1261 - 6S1279 - 6S1405 - 6S1536 - 6S1586 - 6S1607 - 6S1728 - 6S1732 - 6S1821 - 6S1844 - 6S1916 - 6S1918 - 6S2007 - 6S2020 - 2069 - 2179 - 2020 - 6S2069 - 6S2125 - 6S2179 -  6S2227 -  6S2249 - 6S2253 - 6S2268 - 6S2371 - 6S2148
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on May 09, 2024, 06:20:46 PM
Yee Ha! The mother lode. Thanks, Jeff, and everyone else contributing to this research.

Steve
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: GT350AUS on May 10, 2024, 03:53:51 AM
705 Black ducts
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: GT350Lad on May 10, 2024, 04:53:48 AM
Nice one Jeff.
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on May 10, 2024, 08:59:40 AM
6S1467 is black, 6S1487 was black when I restored it.
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: papa scoops on May 18, 2024, 06:54:27 PM
1122 black, both sides
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on May 18, 2024, 07:54:33 PM
Continuing thanks to all those offering their information to this survey.

Steve
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: FL SAAC on January 19, 2025, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: SFM6S087 on May 08, 2024, 08:51:36 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on May 08, 2024, 07:53:38 PMChecked our car out when we first bought it to make sure they had ducts installed, definitely black

FL SAAC, Which car would that be, please?

Steve

Sorry for the late response been kinda busy. Our car is a B. D. M. shelby.

Black
Ducts
Matter
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFcarbuff on January 20, 2025, 05:05:57 PM
1714 are black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 20, 2025, 05:27:19 PM
843 black
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: Lisalee on January 21, 2025, 05:38:44 AM
From my experience, early 1966 GT350s (VINs below ~6S200) tend to have white inlet and outlet ducts. Later models (6S400+) seem to have black ones. 😊 (https://kursyszkolenie.pl/)
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on January 21, 2025, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Lisalee on January 21, 2025, 05:38:44 AMFrom my experience, early 1966 GT350s (VINs below ~6S200) tend to have white inlet and outlet ducts. Later models (6S400+) seem to have black ones.

Thanks, Lisalee.

And thanks to all the others who continue to contribute information to this research.

Steve
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: Saacman on January 30, 2025, 10:09:30 PM
6s324 .. was basically an original 67K mile car .original white (Non Lemans Stripe ) automatic . When I restored it the brake ducts were originally "Black".             
Todd Scranton - owner 1991 SAAC Prototype XX2.
Title: Re: Brake Duct Color - Black or White?
Post by: SFM6S087 on January 31, 2025, 10:23:47 AM
Thanks, Todd.

Steve Sloan