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Title: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Kent on August 29, 2024, 04:08:59 AM
I have an RUG-S here and it should be from a 68 Shelby GT500 maybe someone here has informations about it? Best regards Kent


partial vin is: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Coralsnake on August 29, 2024, 04:49:05 AM
Interesting, but the R would indicate San Jose and they didnt build 428s in 1968

Plus the unit number 102239 is too low to be a Shelby

I am guessing that you are not interpreting that correctly?

Is the 102239 number on the tag or stamped into the casting?
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Kent on August 29, 2024, 05:21:43 AM
Its on the ear of the tranny where it should be yes I also was wondering but maybe someone here has an idea.
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Coralsnake on August 29, 2024, 08:30:03 AM
Does anyone know if the RUGS was used on 390 or CJ cars?
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: shelbydoug on August 29, 2024, 09:39:23 AM
David Kee has it only listed as a '68 GT500 transmission.

http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/idchart2.htm


You are presuming that the stamped in vehicle ID is factory stamped and it may not be.

At one time 30 or 40 years ago someone wrote an article on how to protect the parts in your vehicle from theft and one of the suggestions was to stamp your vehicle ID into the transmission.
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: FL SAAC on August 29, 2024, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on August 29, 2024, 09:39:23 AMDavid Kee has it only listed as a '68 GT500 transmission.

http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/idchart2.htm


You are presuming that the stamped in vehicle ID is factory stamped and it may not be.

At one time 30 or 40 years ago someone wrote an article on how to protect the parts in your vehicle from theft and one of the suggestions was to stamp your vehicle ID into the transmission.

Correct +1
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Coralsnake on August 29, 2024, 11:56:16 AM
Thanks Doug,

Not projecting just going by the information presented
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: J_Speegle on August 29, 2024, 01:28:37 PM
Believe you will find some 428CJ 4 speed Mustangs were built during 1968 production at San Jose that had RUG S transmissions installed in them. The challenge, at this point for me, is that the sequential number 102239 would put this too early for a Cobra Jet built later in the production year. 8R102239 would make this from a very very early car at San Jose. Of course without the Ford data used in a Marti report we would not know if 8R102239 was built around the time scheduled or delayed for some reason. Have records of some early cars being delayed by months at San Jose

There are other applications (different years) that also used the RUG S based on the pictures and information received
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Coralsnake on August 29, 2024, 01:31:17 PM
You ate referring to Cobra Jets?
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: J_Speegle on August 29, 2024, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 29, 2024, 01:31:17 PMYou ate referring to Cobra Jets?

Yes - built at San Jose.  It was mentioned earlier that Kee's site listed the RUG S as only a 68 only GT500 trans so wanted to offer some additional information related to that statement while questioning the installation of the transmission in question on such an low sequential number at San Jose
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Coralsnake on August 29, 2024, 02:55:14 PM
Well if hes really curious he can run a few reports
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: S7MS427 on August 29, 2024, 03:39:17 PM
RUG-S was a 1967 GT500 Transmission.  Big input, big out put.
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: shelbydoug on August 29, 2024, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: S7MS427 on August 29, 2024, 03:39:17 PMRUG-S was a 1967 GT500 Transmission.  Big input, big out put.

I thought that also. All I can do is refer to Key's list since I have no other data.

I think that it is for both 67 & 68 GT500.
Title: Re: 8R102239 4 Speed Toploader RUG-S sitting here
Post by: Kent on August 29, 2024, 06:36:16 PM
The RUG-S and RUG-S1 for the 67 GT500 have different casting # than an RUG-S for the 68 1/2 Cobra Jets and the 68 GT500 and the later build 68 1/2 CJ Mustangs recieved the RUG-AE like the GT500KR also.

What I want to say is that the tranny should be definitely a early 68 only application on a CJ or a GT500

I just sold it as I dont need it anymore so this story has ended.