Seller seems to believe this car came from the factory with a modified 406 block. Anyone ever heard of such a thing? Is March 13th too early in 63 for a R code?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-ford-galaxie-500-47/
Extraordinary claims need extraordinary documentation. I would be surprised if there were anything to back up the claim IMO.
I seem to remember someone saying that the 63 R codes were all built in the second half of the year which is why people call them 63 1/2 Galaxies. I guess that is not correct.
63 1/2 refers to the later longer sloping roof line
Quote from: TLea on September 02, 2024, 10:48:07 PM63 1/2 refers to the later longer sloping roof line
Is that different from the fastback in this auction? If it is I suppose I'll need to compare the 2 side by side to figure out what the difference is. I know there is also a notchback but I thought 63 fastback and 63 1/2 fastback were the same body style.
ETA: After that 63 with the wrong block and heads went for $50k a very nice 64 went up:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-ford-galaxie-500-90/
Quote from: TLea on September 02, 2024, 10:48:07 PM63 1/2 refers to the later longer sloping roof line
Yeah, that's the way I always understood the 63 1/2 reference ... early 63 Galaxies had the "boxtop" roofline and 63 1/2 Galaxies were "fastbacks".
Fred
Quote from: OldFordGuy on September 03, 2024, 01:23:07 PMETA: After that 63 with the wrong block and heads went for $50k a very nice 64 went up:
Somebody needs to do a lot of homework on this one. They are cagey about original motor. It should have cross bolted mains. Let's see those and the casting date etc. Are the original wheels available? Those were different. There was also changes to the frame that need to be shown. Also another one with perfect floors but rust pitting on the frame. How much of the body is original.
I turned down a 66 R Code because the guy was playing word games about the frame and body - it had been turned into a gasser with 12" of engine setback then restored/rebodied he wouldn't send detail pics or say how much was replaced.
I attached your 64 R Code homework assignment and th 66 before/after
There's basically 3 kinds of R codes, SVT. Since they were special cars from the get go you have cars like mine with 26k original miles, all original, unmessed with, always garaged, adult owned and nice as you'll find any car from 1963 and then you'll find the ones that were chopped up and raced and beaten on until they broke and lastly you have the restored ones, and you're right, you really have to do your homework on those.
P.S. Checked the build date on mine and it's March 19th (Los Angeles) and it is also a fastback. I know a guy with a 63 R code notchback, I'll have to ask him what the build date is on his. March doesn't seem to me like it would qualify for the extra 1/2 but maybe being a fastback it does.
No, that is a 63 1/2. Prior to the sports roof, which later simply became known as the fastback the 63 is were known as the box tops.
https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/total-performance-styling-the-63-%C2%BD-ford-galaxie-fastback/
It amazes me how undervalued these cars continue to be. I can understand 63 and 64 somewhat because they made thousands of each model year. But get into the 65 to 67 where the numbers got down to less than 300 and you are talking some of the most rare Performance cars forward ever made. The R code Fairlanes bring stupid money, but not the galaxies.
I've never seen a breakdown of how many 65R code XL they made like mine but I would have to think it's probably less than 30
Totally agree, TLea. As I said the other day these are the last affordable legendary muscle cars of the 60s and maybe not for much longer. Every youtube video that supposedly lists the fastest cars from the 60s leaves the R code Galaxies and Fairlanes out. They deserve more love.
P.S. I wonder what was the first 63 1/2 fastback. If March of 63 still counts as 1/2, how early in the year were they actually built?
Also, while we're talking legendary and rare Ford performance from the 60's and affordability, it's astonishing to me that lightweight Galaxies can still be had for $120-140k and I want one.
OP, sorry for minor thread-drift (not many kindred places to talk 63 1/2 R-codes these days!).
Saw this sitting unobserved in Reno last month. Driven in, rust was all sun-rust/no cancer, possibly original paint (save for hood), factory fit sheetmetal.
Nice license plate too.
Now we're talking! I love it just how it is and wouldn't change a thing. Did they put the SOHC motor in 63s? Is that real?
According to this video they didn't make the SOHC until 64.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxau_5OQKi4&authuser=0
I don't think Ford installed the cammer in any street car. When they first pitched it to NASCAR they pointed out that no street engine would use over 8' of timing chain. Ford decide to use in drag racing. When they built the first 10 A/FX Mustangs they didn't even have enough cammers for them 2 were shipped with standard 427s.
I consider all the fastback ones as 63 1/2. It's more about a mid year model than an actual date.
There was a R Code web site with a lot of info and registry. I think there is still a FB group but I don't do fakebook.
There isn't a breakdown of XL vs 500s - XL was the deluxe and people were buying these to make 1/4 mile runs not vacation trips so it's probably very low. As for me I want the R Code wagon they only know of one of those. The lightweights are the stars of these cars and included in the total. LW Galaxies are largely ignored in favor of Tbolts and the later R code Fairlanes.
63 R&Q 4,895 R is dual quad Q is single quad - both 427
64 R&Q 3,104
65 R 327
66 R 237
67 R 89 - some confusion exists here as they were marked 7 litre and some 428s may be mixed into the count.
Just a reminder that the 63 1/2 Ford Galaxie and Falcon Sprint were introduced in Monaco, where the Falcons were entered in the Monte Carlo Rally.
About cars being called half like the 63.5 Galaxie, 64.5 Mustang or the 68.5 CJ cars lets put it in model year perspective. To me back then the Model year was Aug-July so calling a March built car a 1/2 seems appropriate to me as they were 7-8 months into the model year.