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Title: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 23, 2024, 05:38:24 PM
We will take you through a trip on day two enhancements to one of the current Works of Art by Shelby American Las Vegas a 2016 GTH or as some affectionately call them "The Cult Cars" "Black and Gold" baby !

Enjoy the journey

# C.S.M. cars
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 24, 2024, 11:07:45 AM
As everyone knows by now or will if you have a coyote motor in your vehicle that the one of the weak points are the oil pump gears.

It is highly recommended that you upgrade from stock gears when adding more power such as cams, intake, exhaust as well as supercharger, nitrous or turbo kits.

Frequent high RPM use and hitting the rev limiter will damage the stock OPG causing engine damage.

 We used the Boundary oil pump gear and is the answer to extended engine protection.

 Make sure to add the Boundary crank sprocket for a complete upgrade.

 We went with the complete kit which includes the correct oil pump gear, timing chain,  crank sprocket, harmonic balancer and water pump pulley kit. 



Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 24, 2024, 03:09:20 PM
Very important but was not mentioned, now that you cracked the motor open also replace the tensioners.

Let's continue we decided on the choice of product and installation.

We chose the Whipple, why because you can "build back better" (excuse the pun lmao) from this stage

A Whipple supercharger offers significant performance benefits including: high horsepower gains, excellent cooling efficiency due to its patented dual intercooler design, refined drivability, reliable power delivery, and a robust system with high-quality components; making it a popular choice for serious performance enthusiasts seeking a substantial power upgrade while maintaining good manners on the road.

Indeed it does

Delivers significantly more horsepower and torque compared to a stock engine, allowing for a noticeably quicker acceleration.

Advanced Intercooling:

Utilizes a dual-pass intercooler system for superior heat dissipation, ensuring consistent power delivery even under heavy load.

Improved Drivability:
Designed to maintain smooth throttle response and excellent manners on the street, not just for track use.

Reliable Performance:
Known for its quality construction and proven track record of reliability.

Customizable Tuning:
Can be further optimized through tuning software to suit individual vehicle needs and driving styles.

High-Quality Components:
Features premium components like a large heat exchanger, robust intercooler pump, and high-flow throttle body for optimal performance.

This is The Ticket  !
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 26, 2024, 04:29:26 PM
"There is never enough horsepower...just not enough traction"
Carroll Shelby


Soooooooo how do you transplant ALL that new found power to the ground???

Elementary my dear Watson or should we say Whipple.....

With a little help from our friends at....you know those "guys"

Just add water and

First is the Alignment dowel kit.

This fills the factory bolt hole voids with CNC machined delrin inserts that will square up the rear subframe to the chassis.

 By filling these voids we are also limiting the side to side and front to back movement of the subframe that is present under hard acceleration and braking.

Second is the tried and true IRS Subframe Bushing Support System.

 This eight piece kit was a first of it's kind in the performance aftermarket and so innovative and popular its a patented design.

 Made from billet 6061 aluminum and featuring stainless steel hardware, this kit fills all the factory voids in the IRS subframe mounting locations.

 It's job is to prevent up and down movements of the subframe.

The 3rd and final piece to this kit is the strongest support brace for the S550/S650 IRS on the market

 Made from chrome moly steel, this brace is designed to support the factory subframe by directly tying it into the chassis at key mounting locations.

 Using factory mounting locations on the factory frame, this 5 point brace supports the front factory mount and the lower control arm mount as well.

A simple bolt in design this brace ties the subframe to the chassis in the best possible way.

And it's all made proudly in the United States of America
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 27, 2024, 02:55:14 PM
Welcome back to "Day Two"


"There is never enough horsepower...just not enough traction"
Carroll Shelby

What he said...but with a little help from our friends (Beatles sung that) the pounding gets grounding....
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 28, 2024, 07:09:33 AM
Adjustable Urethane Differential Mount Bushing Insert System.

Features and Benefits:
- Limits IRS Differential Movement
- Significant Increase in Traction
- Helps with Eliminating Wheel Hop
- No Increase in NVH
- Easily Removable, Not a Permanent Modification
- Includes 80 and 90 Durometer Bushings
- Made In The USA

And they have succeeded in that. You know have the ability to minimize pinion angle changes, noticeably increase traction, and help eliminate wheel hop and differential deflection with this new kit. Made from high-strength urethane
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 29, 2024, 08:10:54 PM
So now you need more fuel, what to do ?

You can go crazy and read all the good stuff out there

Or

Go Walbro or B.A.P.

Increased fuel demand:
A supercharger significantly increases the amount of air entering the engine, which means more fuel is needed to burn that air efficiently.

Fuel pump limitations:
The stock fuel pump may not be able to deliver enough fuel to meet the increased demand created by the supercharger.

High-flow fuel pump:
To address this, most people install a high-flow fuel pump that can deliver a larger volume of fuel to the engine.
Other considerations when supercharging a Mustang:

Fuel pressure regulator:
You may also need to adjust the fuel pressure regulator to maintain proper fuel pressure at higher boost levels.

Fuel system upgrades:
Depending on the level of power you're aiming for, further upgrades like larger fuel lines or injectors might be necessary.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 30, 2024, 03:29:14 PM
Continuing with our "pursuit of happiness, joy and traction" add these lovely components to the mix.

New rear axles that are some what bullet resistant and rear aluminium vertical billet

Also we have been asked "when will this project be completed?

Our answer is "NEVA EVA"....to be eternally continued

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 31, 2024, 06:41:50 AM
A little item but a very important item in this equation, your thermostat.

We went with the Reische 170° thermostat that is custom made with the same size diaphragm and bypass control as the OEM units.

This provides proper bypass control, which means maximum efficiency from your Mustang's cooling system.

Each of these thermostats is carefully modified by hand, using the only U.S. made parts and then quality inspected to ensure reliable and consistent opening temperatures.

This Reische Performance 170 Degree Thermostat is a direct replacement for the old, standard-issue thermostats in your late-model Mustang.

This Reische Performance Thermostat is intended to be used in vehicles that are running a custom tune.

It is important that the fan settings in your tune are set up properly if you want to see the best possible heat dissipation from your cooling system.

Otherwise, a low-temperature thermostat will only be effective when the vehicle is moving because heat cannot be removed unless there is air passing through the radiator.

 Whether you are using an aftermarket radiator or not, this thermostat will provide the best possible heat dissipation from your setup, along with a faster warm-up time and better cold-weather performance than a 160° unit or a thermostat that merely had holes drilled in the diaphragm.



Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on December 31, 2024, 01:36:01 PM
Hoses, did someone mention hoses?

We would recommend that you replace ALL the factory hoses with silicone high performance / temperature hoses.

These  Hoses feature a 100% silicone construction for greater heat and pressure resistance than your stock rubber hoses.

They will last forever and one day, unless they are punctured or cut intentionally.

We ordered all our hoses in black, because we dont want to be the Royal Cornelius with Red or Blue hoses in our car.

Riceeeeer !

A direct-fit upgrade for 2015-2023 GT Mustangs, the Mishimoto Silicone  Hose Kit is available in black, blue, or red to enhance your underhood visuals.

Features and Benefits:

- Direct-Fit Upgrade
- Four Layers of Silicone with Heat-Resistant Embedded Fibers
- Improves Heat and Pressure Tolerance
- High-Quality Worm-Gear Clamps for Ease of Installation
- Available In Black, Blue, or Red
- Max Temperature of 330-Degrees

Prone to degradation, the stock rubber hoses don't respond well to the high heat produced by your Coyote engine.

In contrast, each Mishimoto Ancillary Hose features a four-layer silicone construction that's reinforced with heat-resistant embedded fibers for high heat and pressure tolerance.

Kit Includes:
- Engine to Expansion Tank Hoses
- Radiator to Expansion Tank Hose with Integrated Check Valve
- Worm Gear Clamps

Whether you're making moves out on the track or hard launching down the drag strip, these Silicone  Hoses ensure a leak-free engine.

 The radiator-to-expansion tank hose even comes with an integrated check valve so you  can enjoy stock-like operation while you're at it.



Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 02, 2025, 08:44:41 AM
My reply was Au contraire mon ami

Yes Virginia those are high grade silicone hoses for our "Cult Car"

To Be Continued
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 02, 2025, 02:31:37 PM
Once you have the Whipple installed, things start to happen "very fast" and although our car does not have high mileage at all it looks like the stock pump does not work that well under duress.

It was leaking through the weep hole so slightly.

We opted to upgrade with this Ford performance water pump with stronger components and much better flow.

Don't cheap out.

Ford Performance GEN 2 Water Pump Kit for 2011-2020 Mustangs with a 5.0L engine and 2015-2023 Mustangs with a 5.2L engine.

It's about that time when you'll need to break apart your engine's components for a fresh start at another 100,000 miles.

The Ford Performance "GEN 2" Water Pump Kit M-8501-M52A for 2011-2023 5.0L and 2015-2020 5.2L Engines is an ideal upgrade with a promise of up to 30 percent flow improvement.

Included in the water pump kit:
- Water pump
- Water pump pulley
- Attachment hardware (3 bolt pulley to pump attachment)

Increase the longevity of your engine, and consequently its parts with this Performance water pump kit for 2011-2023 5.0L and 2015-2020 5.2L engines.

 With an exceptional improvement in flow over the factory pump, this High-Performance series uses OEM components with minimum allowable tolerances to promote longevity.

Again don't cheap out, dont hesitate buy this improved pump.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 02, 2025, 07:33:39 PM
Another must have item is the addition of an Air-Oil Separator for your supercharged coyote.

You have many options in this category, we chose the Moroso product for the following reasons.

Product Benefits
Prevent oil deposits in your intake track or valves
High-quality aluminumHeavy-duty steel mounting bracket
Stylish black anodized finsih


This Moroso S550 Mustang GT Small Body Black Air Oil Separator for your 2015-2017 S550 Mustang GT is manufactured from high-quality billet aluminum featuring heavy-duty brass fitting for the inlet and outlet tubes.

The body of this air oil separator is finished in black using an anodizing process.

The oil separator also features a billet mounting clamp that connects to a steel mounting bracket for easy installation.

This mounting bracket insures the oil separator is always sitting in a level position and not moving around during normal driving conditions.

Moroso S550 Mustang GT Small Body Black Air Oil Separator is engineered to capture crankcase vapor run off, lingering oil mist/moisture from making its way back into Ford's 5.0L engine intake manifold.

 Over time the oil separator will prevent the excess oil from forming in the intake track or even the valves.

This preventative piece ultimately will extend the life of your 5.0L engine in your S550 Mustang GT.

 The excess oil that is captured in the air oil separator can be easily drained by unscrewing the two-piece oil separator.

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 03, 2025, 06:35:01 AM
Throttle bodies  132 or 150 ?

With the ever increasing demand for power, Whipple now offers one of the highest quality and highest flowing (2000) fly-by-wire elliptical blade throttle body available today.

The elliptical throttle body, dubbed the "Roval" fits the unique supercharger inlet housing for simple bolt-on.

Performance gains of nearly 40hp can be achieved on the Whipple Mustang kit with the standard boost levels. With modified motors, power gains of nearly 200hp can be achieved!!

The Whipple "Roval" uses the factory electric motor and bolts directly to SC inlet. Each throttle body is pre-flowed and set for repeatable idle characteristics. 

Up until now, their front feed kit used the 132mm throttle body. Although that setup performs excellent, they know there's always a need for more.

By adding the 150mm throttle body kit, you can expect more boost with less restriction, which equates to more horsepower and torque.


Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 04, 2025, 07:39:23 AM
Highly recommended

The Whipple tensioner plate is designed to work with all 2011-2019 Mustangs running the 3.0L Whipple Supercharger with the 10 Rib belt setup.

The new tensioner plate uses an additional 10 rib idler pulley to help create better belt wrap and prevent belt slip.

This upgrade is beneficial for those looking to make max boost and not have to worry about boost / power loss due to belt slip.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 04, 2025, 05:36:30 PM
You remember when good spark plugs were priced at a buck?

Nevermore

Once you modify you must go to a Brisk or NGK plugs and one step colder.

Gapped around .028 -.030 is a good range as well.

These may last up to 25,000 miles.

Perfect for the denser air/fuel mixture on forced induction applications, these colder NGK Spark Plugs (6510) are a direct replacement for your S550 Mustang. These plugs come in a set of eight, and offer premium quality with a high melting point.

Features and Benefits:
- One Heat Range Colder Than Stock
- Great For Forced Induction
- Easy Installation
- Direct Fit Replacement
- Set Of Eight (8) Spark Plugs

Stepping to a colder plug is important on nitrous-equipped, supercharged, or turbocharged engines. If you've boosted your Coyote recently, or just need to change the plugs, this set from NGK will provide the reliable and precise spark you need.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: TA Coupe on January 04, 2025, 11:31:11 PM
Great write up on what it takes to turn one of these into a real beast.

     Roy
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: Lincoln tech on January 05, 2025, 03:55:13 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 05, 2025, 05:39:32 PM
Keeping in everything in sync, the proper installation of Full-Length Jacking Rails

Why ?

While the chassis is very strong by default, these rails seem to reduce some amount of droop when the front is on the ground and the rear is not fully supported by the ground.

It does feel like the rails provide a little more rigidity to the body, although I agree that there's not much body flex in the S550.

We got them for the ease of jacking up the car to change tires, the added rigidity is just a plus for us.

I did not expect any difference in road feel, but I was WRONG.

A significant increase in longitudinal stiffness was noticed for sure. Just like when putting subframe connectors on Fox bodies...big change.

That means that F-R stiffness, or a unifying effect upon the chassis is made thru those eight bolts and the jack rails.




Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 06, 2025, 07:46:52 AM
A better picture of the rails installed with the other traction widgets....
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 06, 2025, 02:25:24 PM
Continuing with the "plan" of this chosen "Cult Car"

DeatschWerks has expanded its fuel rail product category to include two popular modern-muscle applications: Ford Mustang 5.0 Coyote and GM LS1/LS6.

A clean-sheet CAD design process has produced two new fuel rails that offer higher flow, more plumbing options, and several unique features that go beyond what is currently available in the market.

Quality, Performance, and Flexibility are what the customer has asked for, and DW has delivered.

Quality - DW fuel rails are CNC'd from billet T6061 aluminum and hard anodized in a black finish. The new DW rails were designed with integrated CNC brackets; less expensive bolt-on brackets save money but lack stiffness and precision.

 In addition, DW engineers invested significant design time removing excess material to shave weight and create a sleek signature look resulting in a rail that looks as good as it performs.

Performance - DW fuel rails outflow the competition with -8AN ORB inlets and outlets utilizing bore diameters that exceed AN spec by 80%.
In addition, only DW rails feature bottom-mount 3/8" NPT ports for low-profile fuel pulsation damper integration – which decrease noise and pressure fluctuations in dead-headed and returnless configurations.

Flexibility - DW fuel rails are engineered for use in both return and returnless configurations.

This flexibility allows you to buy once and buy right, future-proofing your rails for build stages yet to come.

The DW rails also feature 1/8" NPT top ports and 3/8" NPT bottom ports which allow integration points for nitrous, pressure gauges, fuel pulsation dampers, and other rail accessories.

A Schrader Valve is included with each set for easy and accurate fuel pressure data logging during tuning sessions.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 08, 2025, 01:16:27 PM
The similarities are just unbelievable, back in the good old days a Ford Mustang would leave the factory and make it's way to the Shelby Americans Institute of Handling & Power.

Shelby American would cast their spell and that Mustang would be transformed into a SHELBY with it's own distinct C.S.M. number

One of the additional options at Shelby  American was turning your 289 hipo 306 horsepower into a supercharged (thank you Mr Granatelli) 443 bhp monster.

Or you could actually purchase the Paxton over the counter and have it installed.

You are living in the greatest country in the world.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 08, 2025, 06:33:36 PM

Fast forward to today and it's the same process, the Ford Mustang goes to Shelby American they customize, modify and then (hold your breath Loretta!) they C.S.M.ize this unique creation.

As far as the supercharger, today you can option it to have 6-7-8-9 or possibly 1,000+ horsepower or more done by Shelby American or others!

You can purchase the supercharger from Shelby American or Rousch or Whipple.

Who says the good old days are gone?

The good old days are now, dont let them pass you by....

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 11, 2025, 11:08:29 AM
What injectors to use?

This varied depending on your Growth Goals

We went with Injector Dynamics ID1050X

Why?

Corrosion resistant internals make it compatible with all known fuels, capable of extended service life with corrosive fuels.

High flow rate:

Compared to stock injectors, the ID1050x can deliver a larger volume of fuel per injection cycle, enabling more power potential. 

Improved performance:

When paired with a custom tune, these injectors can enhance acceleration, throttle response, and overall engine performance, especially on heavily modified vehicles. 

E85 compatibility:

The "X" in ID1050x signifies corrosion resistant internal components, making them suitable for use with ethanol-based fuels like E85. 

Reputation for quality:

Injector Dynamics is widely recognized for producing high-quality fuel injectors, and the ID1050x is considered a reliable choice for performance applications

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 11, 2025, 08:27:08 PM

Why do envious people insist on knowing or assume (wow you know what  they say) your plans?

Let's address these intriguing inquires

1 this post should be called how to throw aftermarket parts at your coyote motor

Answer : what "it" wanted to say was "throw money at your car"

Because the coyote motor is installed in the car.

The car is a Shelby Hertz C.S.M. 1 of 172 made

This car, just like all the real ones (1965 - 1967)  "that they Shelby American
also threw a lot of aftermarket parts" on their conversion from Mustang to Shelbys.

2 burned up 1969

Answer:

"It" stop living in the past. Turn the page and live in the here and now, move into today.

3 destroyed 1966 transmission

Answer:

Destroyed 1966 "it" means a well purchased 1966 Shelby Hertz GT350 C.S.M. car 1 of 1,000 made

That we got lucky and found a 1966 automatic transmission from another Shelby car that was converted to stick shift. Had it rebuilt and installed

4 wait until "it" finds out that we are going to install an after market AC unit in our four speed 1969 GT500

5 "It" says possibly a pattern?

Answer:

Yes there is a pattern of continous improvements, making our Shelby C.S.M. cars how we want have them.

A constant flow of "cash money" on several projects at the same time.

Hoping all are enjoying their lives yesterday, today and tomorrow

Living the American Dream one day at a time!
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 12, 2025, 10:30:57 AM
Going back to the Moroso Oil Separator we reviewed many others and came to the conclusion that this ones form and function beat out all the other choices.


The top of that Air Oil Separator has 2 baffles. One is perforated metal, and the second is "scrubble" that allows vapor to pass through, but catches the oil and contains it in the bottom reservoir.

There are filters in the upper part that separate oil from the incoming air/oil mist. The oil falls to the bottom tank leaving clean air to return to the intake track.

They hold about 8 ounces, but should be drained when it gets about 2/3 rds full.

Just a great design
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 12, 2025, 03:31:35 PM
So what oil do we use ?

Actually in ALL our cars we use Mobil 1

In this one specifically it's the 5W50

And once M o bil started to sell their premium oil filters it's a one stop shop
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 12, 2025, 08:18:24 PM
Quote from: TA Coupe on January 04, 2025, 11:31:11 PMGreat write up on what it takes to turn one of these into a real beast.

     Roy

Roy

glad you are enjoying our journey with one of our Three Musketeers GTH "Cult Cars"

Thank you for your encouraging words
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 13, 2025, 09:14:26 AM
Antifreeze and its ratio, how important is it ?

Florida or hot areas will be best served with a 70/30 distilled water/antifreeze mixture.

You still want the lubrication of antifreeze so I wouldn't recommend less that 70/30.

The wrong mix, could lead to a huge loss of horsepower to solely blame on heat soak from coolant type and or mixture.

You could loose 100-200 HP  solely blamed on heat sink/soak from coolant type and or wrong mixture.

Ask us how we know....

In closing some add water wetter or some other magic elixir to enhance their cooling, we are not alchemists.

So we  just go with the 70/30 ratio and don't add anything else.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 14, 2025, 10:10:28 AM
Did you know that HEAT SINK is not your friend

You will notice a huge change especially  when  maximum propulsion is used and into stop go traffic 110F summer.


240F CHT down to 220-215F and then some.

When the Reische 170 thermostat is already full open and temps still climbing, this made significant difference.

Doesnt matter what thermostat or if you take it completely out,larger intercooler, install a bigger radiator, bigger fan/fans if you cant get hot air out of engine bay then you are toast!

You need functional heat extractors like the ones on the hood Shelby American installed on the  2016 real GTHs.

They allow substantial ventilation in and out,  especially while sitting stopped in traffic.

Unlike the hood on the GTH Heritage (those other ones) Edition that has minimal extractors and that maybe a topic to explore at a later date, the extractors and the "HERITAGE EDITION"

The extractors on the 2016 GTH Cult Cars will help a million times better for air/heat extraction and prevent hood lift upon a sudden propulsion towards the gain in forward momentum.

Wondering if this is can be considered an Art or a Science ?

Maybe both....will you look at those scoops!
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 16, 2025, 08:54:17 AM
Continuing our HEAT SINK study

The "real" 2016 Shelby Hertz hood does an excellent job in extracting heat from your supercharger in traffic and when moving.

The "heritage" cars hood is suspect in extraction. It reminds me of the 2006 and 2007 GTH hood that some even cut up to introduce air into the engine compartment.

Again very nice looking, very pleasing to the eye. But not as efficient as "The Real Ones" hood on the previous post.


Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 17, 2025, 10:54:34 PM
Here is another item to assist you, a oversized heat exchanger

While the standard Whipple system features the largest LTR of any legal supercharger kit, the new high capacity LTR takes performance to an entirely new level.

The all aluminum heat exchanger features a new dual pass design, dual 3/4" ID inlet/out fitting, natural race finish and 3.1" thick core for uncomprimised capacity.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 18, 2025, 07:07:37 PM
Ofcourse you can't miss this upgrade of dual electric fans

This will lower your manifold air temps and increase heat exchanger efficiency?

Whipple designed this bolt-on, dual 11" Spal high speed fan kit to mount to the massive high density heat exchanger in a matter of minutes.

The Whipple upgrade kit comes with the pigtails required for plug and play installation.

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 19, 2025, 09:34:16 AM
Continuing with the all important cooling on a supercharged vehicle

Whipple suggested 50/50 water to the stock Ford coolant. If you are in cooler areas, operating to Floridaland we deviated from this mix ratio.

I followed those instructions and still noticed that my CHTs were a little too high for my liking. I ran it like that for a while and even had a dyno day where the car made well over 1,000+ rwhp. I thought that was rather respectable, but after three pulls the heat soak was obvious with the car only made 900+/- . We drained the coolant from the radiator and whatever free flowed from the engine without flushing it and just topped it back off with distilled water.

Today it's probably more like 80/20 or 85/15 water to coolant give or take a few with the coolant that was trapped in the heater core and engine.

We also added a bottle of water wetter. Old CHTs were consistently over 215 degrees and went beyond 235 after a pull. Now temps stay at 180 and rarely get over 200 even after a wot pull on the hottest days.

The mix is key here and adding a coolant/ water enhancement like water wetter redline, vp  cool down, hypercool is definitely a big plus ONE
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 23, 2025, 11:20:33 PM
Your goal is to monitor your temperature,  I follow the cylinder head temperature on my gauge.

Our goal is for it to be at around 185/200 and no more than 215/220 under normal driving conditions.

Remember that CHT does not equal coolant temperatures

Your radiator is handicapped by the stock thermostat. Again we installed a Reische 170 degree thermostat (and our tune also helps to make sure the fans turn on earlier) a major cooling improvement.

Be concerned at the 235 degrees and up range.

Also may I add that general rule for cylinder head temperature is that it is around 10-15 degrees hotter than coolant temperatures in your radiator  which puts your radiator coolant temps much cooler.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 28, 2025, 08:02:02 AM
boys and girls look what happens when it gets chilly in Floridaland
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 29, 2025, 10:17:41 AM
Just Don't Panic interpret the signals

You have to remember also these new cars are designed to kinda sorta assist you through your crisis.

Also the ECU won't cut power until your temps hit 300, so anything up to about 270 or so is within the range that Ford thinks is ok. 

But, but, but when you get into this heat range your car will be essentially "WhippleLESS" running close to its original stock HP rating or possibly less...

And I dont want to confuse you with the EOT Engine Oil Temps, that's a completely different topic.

The range that the ECU starts pulling / shutting down power is around 280 to 315 degrees range.

Let me tell you CHT is usually a bit higher than EOT and a lot higher than ECT, just monitor closely to avoid the dreaded heat sink.

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 29, 2025, 06:25:41 PM
Sway bars, we had the Ford performance sway bars.

We went with a firmer and bigger rear drag sway bar.

It provides substantially reduced body roll to support high horsepower applications through any drag race requirements.

This drag race rear sway bar will make sure to keep your car pointed straight down the track, no matter how much power you're making.

Its a welded billet ends on the Drag Race Rear Sway Bar for the S550/S650 far stronger than stamping the end of the bar.

Billet-machining construction of the sway bar ends makes for far greater strength for a bulletproof sway bar, that can take a beating no matter how much power your Mustang is putting down.

The sway bars are equipped with machined steel billet sway bar ends.

This sway bar ends are machined out of billet steel round stock and go through hundreds of computer simulations to ensure the ultimate in strength and performance - this provides greater resistance to bending stresses, and has three major advantages:

These parts are less prone to cracking/fatigue failure on the ends themselves.

Billet sway bar ends reduce unwanted deflection - excess deflection creates unwanted geometry changes, which physically changes your sway bar stiffness to a non-ideal rate.


 Mustang Drag Race Rear Sway Bar to reduce body roll and improve stability during hard launches. The added stability that this solid drag race rear sway bar offers will keep your Mustang pointed straight.

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on January 30, 2025, 10:48:01 PM
The key here is that the rear drag bar is designed to maximize weight transfer to the rear wheels during launch, by being significantly stiffer and often only installed on the rear axle, whereas a regular sway bar aims to balance body roll during cornering by resisting roll on both axles, making it less suitable for the specific needs of drag racing where quick weight transfer is crucial; essentially, a drag sway bar prioritizes straight-line stability over cornering ability.

Having said that is it "really a rough ride" ?

A tad yes but not like a wooden kart.

As far as it not handling as good with the drag bar, our car handles like a train on rails due to the lowering and all the other additional components added to the front and rear suspension.

Safe to say it's a rocket on rails
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on February 07, 2025, 11:32:15 AM
From the guy who brought you the "Best Deals on Shelbeee Parts" and who wrote the book "How to Acelratus Rapidus" the one the only your Uncle Tony brings you:

Thermostats

https://www.lethalperformance.com/info/thermostats?srsltid=AfmBOorg4DoQ_ZzUV7o6Vr9hARTYJl1xLkO8KgtnFusfbXCDhOLKFo8j

We in Floridaland are extremely fortunate to have several of the finest shops , programmers and tinuers for you late model monsters.

I told you about keeping it cool
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on February 20, 2025, 06:48:29 PM
Welcome to the game of.....JEOPARDY !

"What is Traction"

What tire to use Michelin, Continental,  Pirelli Goodyear, Falken,  Hancock, Yokohama or whomever.

Let me say it truly does not matter.

These all are very nice premium tires, they drive well, handle well, if properly inflated, balanced and rotated they will last 25,000 + miles.

Does size matter?

Yes and No

This is when tire compound is considered more important than tire width.

Let me mention that wider tires on these brands don't really matter on finding that elusive traction.

Dont get me wrong I said traction, not cornering or handling.

Remember traction and Whipple should not be expressed in the same sentence.

Or maybe....
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on February 21, 2025, 08:50:01 PM
You need to find a nice 100 to 300 thread wear tire.  These tires should last you any where  from 1,500 to 6,000

Here are some examples:

Hoosiers

The Track Attack Pro is Hoosier's Streetable Track & Competition tire designed for the drivers of sports cars, hot hatches, and supercars who are looking for motorsports levels of traction and handling for track day events in a tire that can still be driven on the street to and from the event. Tuned for maximum performance in warm, dry and damp conditions, the Track Attack Pro is not intended to be serviced, stored, nor driven in near- and below-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

Toyo's R888R

The Proxes R888R is a semi-race tire with a race tread compound. It's designed for track days, road racing, and high-performance driver education events. 

The Proxes R888R has an increased contact patch, which improves dry traction and performance over multiple laps and heat cycles. 

The Proxes R888R has a semi-race construction, which is very stiff
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on February 22, 2025, 11:13:40 AM
NT555RII

Features race compound for increased traction at the starting line.

The large twin center ribs provide a continuous contact patch for dry traction.

The sidewall construction has been modified to improve launch for better 60' times.

Atturo AZ850

As an ultra-high-performance tire, the AZ850 needs certain features that will allow it to perform at a high level.

Softer, "stickier" tread formulation delivers strong braking and cornering capabilitiesDesigned to resist heat buildup, which prevents uneven wear

Two steel belts, jointless nylon cap ply, and high bead filler all contribute to high-speed stability

Continuous center rib for straight-line stability along with quick steering response

Asymmetric tread pattern with larger tread blocks toward shoulder for enhanced cornering ability

Lateral grooves, and deep circumferential grooves channel water away to avoid hydroplaning and boost wet-weather traction










Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on February 23, 2025, 10:21:23 AM
M&H Race Master

M&H brings you the latest in drag racing tires technology with the Drag Radial ''Front Runners'' and ''Cheater Slicks''. These DOT-approved tires are available in popular sizes to fit classic and modern muscle cars and trucks. The radial ''Front Runners'' are designed to appear similar to the rears while offering low rolling resistance. The rear ''Cheater Slicks'' feature an exclusively sticky tread rubber and lightweight design developed for maximum drag racing performance.

Mickey Thompson SS

D.O.T. approved for street use
Equivalent tread void as the ET Street Radial II, redistributed for improved hydroplane resistance while providing plenty of tread contact for excellent dry traction

Proven R2 compound, the same proven compound used on the quickest "drag radials" on the planet provides superior traction at the strip with little or no burnout required

Tubeless construction provides leak-free seal without the expense and hassle of tubes
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 10, 2025, 10:32:53 PM
So do you run a open air or closed air filtration system?


Closed air box benefits

A closed air filter box with a Whipple supercharger is generally considered better because it helps maintain cooler intake air temperatures by preventing hot air from the engine bay from entering the intake, leading to improved performance compared to an open air box; this is especially beneficial when paired with a supercharger which relies on dense, cool air for optimal power delivery.

Cooler air intake:
The closed design draws air from a cooler area away from the engine, resulting in denser air which can improve combustion and horsepower.

Reduced heat soak:
By preventing direct engine bay heat from reaching the intake, a closed box helps to minimize "heat soak" which can negatively impact performance

Better air filtration:
A closed box can provide better protection for the air filter from dirt and debris.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 11, 2025, 04:08:42 PM
Open Air Filter


Open air filter on a Whipple supercharger can provide a significant advantage by allowing for maximum airflow to the supercharger, leading to increased horsepower due to the ability to draw in more cool, dense air from the front of the vehicle, maximizing the supercharger's efficiency; however, it's important to consider potential drawbacks like increased noise and potential for debris intake if not properly designed and maintained.

Key advantages of an open air filter on a Whipple:

Increased airflow:

By eliminating restrictions in the air intake system, an open air box allows the supercharger to draw in a larger volume of air, leading to better power delivery.

Cooler air intake:

Open air filters can be positioned to directly access cooler air from the front of the vehicle, improving combustion efficiency.
Improved supercharger performance:
With more air available, the supercharger can operate more efficiently, resulting in increased horsepower.

Potential drawbacks to consider:

Noise increase:
Open air filters often produce a louder intake sound due to the increased air flow.

Debris ingestion:

If not properly designed, an open air filter could potentially draw in dirt and debris, potentially damaging the engine.

Weather sensitivity:

Depending on the design, an open air filter may be more susceptible to water ingestion in wet conditions.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 12, 2025, 10:38:21 PM
Which to choose?

To be or Not to be?


Open or Closed?

We went with closed

Better air filtration:

A closed box can provide better protection for the air filter from dirt, debris and BUGs.

Here in Floridaland the bugs and pollen when soaked unto the air filter then add our moisture.

Gives you a somewhat cemented seal.

That is why we even put on a Pre Filter on the air filter.


P. S. The yellow is not pollen, it was used to block out the manufacturers name
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 19, 2025, 08:12:09 PM
So what's next after you install all that beautiful "BLING" to the underside of your carriage ?

After these performance suspension upgrades, a proper alignment is crucial to maximize performance and prevent issues like wheel rubbing and uneven tire wear, especially after suspension modifications.


Here's why alignment is so important


A correctly aligned vehicle ensures optimal handling, stability, and tire grip, leading to a more enjoyable and responsive driving experience.

Proper alignment, especially after suspension modifications, is vital for preventing tires from rubbing against the wheel wells or fenders, which can damage tires and other components.


Misalignment can lead to premature and uneven tire wear, so a proper alignment helps ensure your tires last longer and wear evenly.
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 21, 2025, 05:04:02 AM

Improved Handling and Steering with a
correct alignment settings, including camber, caster, and toe, contribute to better steering response, reduced bump steer, and a more predictable handling feel, especially when pushing the limits of your vehicle

Also  subframe alignment kits  ensure proper alignment of suspension and driveline components, especially after suspension modifications or if the subframe is misaligned from the factory. 

Like ours was big time.

Installation of adjustable camber plates allow for precise camber adjustments, which can improve handling, reduce understeer, and increase turn-in response. 

Tramlining, where a vehicle follows road ruts and lines, can be an issue with wide tires, and proper alignment can help mitigate this.

Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 21, 2025, 02:26:43 PM
Here you have the recommended Ford Performance alignments specifications for a GT
Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on March 30, 2025, 08:02:10 PM
Our next topic is staying on track, excuse the pun....

Our recent alignment results are these and it has worked for us, as we have it aligned religiously yearly

Although it is similar but definitely not a like to the F.P. alignment and every other vehicle will also vary due to the alignment and geometry of your own suspension components.

In other words no two cars will ever be the same.

Definitely use a professional alignment shop, it is crucial to ensure proper suspension geometry and maximize performance. 







Title: Re: Day Two Enhancements to a 2016 GTH
Post by: FL SAAC on April 08, 2025, 10:29:59 AM
Moving right along on this on going process.

Driveshaft what to do with the stick driveshaft?

Dump it

A one-piece driveshaft in a Whipple 2016 Mustang GT can improve performance by reducing rotating mass, potentially leading to quicker 1/4-mile times, and can be lighter and stronger than the stock two-piece design.


Reduced Rotating Mass:

A one-piece driveshaft weighs less than a two-piece, which means less weight has to be accelerated and decelerated, potentially leading to quicker acceleration and improved handling.

Improved Performance:

The reduced rotating mass can translate to quicker 1/4-mile times and better overall performance, especially when paired with a Whipple supercharger.

Strength and Durability:

The big one Elizabeth!

One-piece driveshafts, especially those made from materials like carbon fiber or high-strength aluminum, can be stronger and more durable than the factory two-piece design, especially when dealing with the increased power output from a Whipple supercharger.

Elimination of Potential Issues:

The two-piece driveshaft can have issues with vibration or noise, which can be eliminated with a one-piece design.

Direct Fit:

Some one-piece driveshafts are designed as direct fits, eliminating the need for adapters or modifications.

WINNA WINNA CHIKUN DINNER !

Only adverse issue is it will set you back $1,200;to 2,000 but thats a small price to pay for reliability and safety