As most know Shelby American is currently in Floridaland.
Last week at Sebring and currently in Miami showcasing their new products.
Well I had the honor and pleasure to have seen, smelled and heard this new product and it is a beautiful work of "ART" aesthetically and the harmony that comes out of those tail pipes is equal to or better than a any concierto we have ever attended.
For your viewing pleasure we present the New Gee Tee Three Fidee !
And of course this one had the Whippled option with a conservative 810 horse powered option cest magnifique !
The 2025 Shelby GT350, a limited-edition, high-performance Mustang, returns with a supercharged 5.0L V8 engine offering 810 horsepower, a choice of manual or automatic transmission, and performance-focused upgrades in suspension, exhaust, and aerodynamics.
Performance-focused upgrades include revised suspension, a new exhaust, and aerodynamic enhancements.
It will be a Limited Edition model
Shelby American will produce 562 GT350s for 2025, mirroring the number built in 1965, making it a rare and exclusive model.
The white with the semi mat blue stripes is stunning
Thanks I'll pass. At 120 grand with post title modifications that won't pass CA smog it's useless.
NOTE: *Base chassis MSRP and content subject to change. **Supercharger not-included in green states. Purchase and installation of supercharger sold separately in green states.
*Optional supercharger for POST-TITLE SALES ONLY*
Basically a Whippled, modified Coyote GT, you can likely build one yourself for a lot less. IMO it will not be a modern GT350 without the VooDoo, it's a shame Ford didn't put more development into that to address the issues...
Quote from: s2ms on March 26, 2025, 05:25:09 PMBasically a Whippled, modified Coyote GT, you can likely build one yourself for a lot less. IMO it will not be a modern GT350 without the VooDoo, it's a shame Ford didn't put more development into that to address the issues...
It's a stripes and pipes car. Lowering springs and sway bars do not make an icon - any tuner kid can do that on the cheap. I doubt Ford put anytime into the project beyond talking to legal so SA could use the GT350 trademark. The Whipple is approved for the Dark Horse.
Ford Performance: Ford Performance, in partnership with Whipple Superchargers, also offers a supercharger kit for the 2024-2025 Mustang GT and Dark Horse, delivering 810 HP @ 7,500 RPM and 615 lb-ft of torque.
The problem arises in that it's EPA approved for only the GT & Dark Horse. To use it in a different model it would have to go through a whole new certification process.
I think I'll put $35-40,000 of my money into a 2019-20 Bullitt and $300 worth of springs. The other 70 will look good sitting in the bank. In 10-15 years I'll bet they are on a par with each other for collectibility.
Quote from: s2ms on March 26, 2025, 05:25:09 PMBasically a Whippled, modified Coyote GT, you can likely build one yourself for a lot less. IMO it will not be a modern GT350 without the VooDoo, it's a shame Ford didn't put more development into that to address the issues...
Quote from: s2ms on March 26, 2025, 05:25:09 PMBasically a Whippled, modified Coyote GT, you can likely build one yourself for a lot less. IMO it will not be a modern GT350 without the VooDoo, it's a shame Ford didn't put more development into that to address the issues...
The "Voodoo" 5.2-liter V8 engine, known for its high-revving capabilities and powerful performance in the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350, has faced some reliability concerns, including oil consumption and potential bearing failures.
We call it the GRENADE ENGINE
Contrair mon ami, it's more than a whippled mustang.
It's the same discussion that goes back to the 1960s when C. S. made the first GT350
You had people saying I won't pay more for that mustang with stripes.
I will just buy a mustang K for less
Having just recently visited the promised land "Shelby American in Las Vegas" there is much more involvement in c9mvdrtomg these Mustangs to Shelbys.
Yes I will not argue that you can or may build it for less
Yes I will not argue that you can or may build to go faster.
But in the end all YOU will have is a Mustang and there is nothing wrong with that.
I will stick with history, give me a C. S. M. Numbered Shelby
This one is serial number 3 and I had the priviledge to see numero uno also.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on March 26, 2025, 08:28:23 PMQuote from: s2ms on March 26, 2025, 05:25:09 PMBasically a Whippled, modified Coyote GT, you can likely build one yourself for a lot less. IMO it will not be a modern GT350 without the VooDoo, it's a shame Ford didn't put more development into that to address the issues...
It's a stripes and pipes car. Lowering springs and sway bars do not make an icon - any tuner kid can do that on the cheap.
I doubt Ford put anytime into the project beyond talking to legal so SA could use the GT350 trademark. The Whipple is approved for the Dark Horse.
Ford Performance: Ford Performance, in partnership with Whipple Superchargers, also offers a supercharger kit for the 2024-2025 Mustang GT and Dark Horse, delivering 810 HP @ 7,500 RPM and 615 lb-ft of torque.
The problem arises in that it's EPA approved for only the GT & Dark Horse. To use it in a different model it would have to go through a whole new certification process.
I think I'll put $35-40,000 of my money into a 2019-20 Bullitt and $300 worth of springs. The other 70 will look good sitting in the bank. In 10-15 years I'll bet they are on a par with each other for collectibility.
Boy do we agree on many points
Wont be a modern GT350 unless it has a voodoo motor
shame Ford didn't put more development into that to address the issues..
Its is a GT350 and it's legit with its Shelby American C.S.M. number
And your right Ford couda shuda as you say "put more development" into the GRENADE MOTOR in the SVT or Shelby name / licensed car that Ford built.
It's a stripes and pipes car. Lowering springs and sway bars do not make an icon - any tuner kid can do that on the cheap.
Your right about that also, but no cigar or in this case no Shelby American C.S.M. Number on that tuner car that kid built...
It's a stripes and pipes car, again just like the early cars. The real ones 65 through 67.
Specifically the 1965-1966 Shelby GT350s were indeed highly modified and performance-oriented, they weren't "factory-made" like the SVT cars.
They were entirely built by Ford and then sent to Shelby American for modification.
Ford built the base Mustang cars, and Shelby American then transformed them into the GT350s at their facilities
Just like these new Shelby American cars today.
Ford makes Mustangs, have regular v.i.n.
Ford makes licensed Shelby product, have regular v.i.m.
Ford sends Mustang to Shelby American in Las Vegas. Shelby American makes Shelby, have regular v.i.n and C.S.M.
Pretty simple
Hope you see the similarities
Truly a clean spectacular S H E L B Y
You have to experience this machine
Quote from: FL SAAC on March 27, 2025, 06:31:38 PMIt's a stripes and pipes car. Lowering springs and sway bars do not make an icon - any tuner kid can do that on the cheap.
Your right about that also, but no cigar or in this case no Shelby American C.S.M. Number on that tuner car that kid built...
Big deal - 66 grand for stripes, springs and a #tag (a base 2024 Mustang GT is 43). They are charging dearly and living off the history that was made in the 60s by about 13,000 cars. They are not creating new history with these cars beyond what will become fodder for a class on upselling products.
How many people are suckered into buying a Kirkham as a "real" Cobra because SA charged 40 grand for the tag on a car that was assembled by Superformance.
PT Barnum said it best - there is a sucker born every minute.
a quotation often associated with P. T. Barnum, an American showman of the mid-19th century, although there is no evidence that he actually said it.
Early instances of its use are found among salesmen, gamblers
and confidence tricksters.
Quote from: FL SAAC on March 27, 2025, 09:09:03 AMIt's the same discussion that goes back to the 1960s when C. S. made the first GT350
You had people saying I won't pay more for that mustang with stripes.
I will stick with history, give me a C. S. M. Numbered Shelby
This one is serial number 3 and I had the priviledge to see numero uno also.
I've never seen any published 1965/6 statements that the GT350 was not worth the extra money. The first I saw of that was for the 2006 Shelby Mustang GT where they were charging 10 grand to slap on $2,500 worth of Motorsport parts.
I'd love to see the current registry of CSM numbered cars. I'll bet it's approaching 200,000 by now. Making any car, truck or EV wearing one far from rare and valuable.
Numero Uno will probably end up in the Segerstrom. They have seem to be willing to pay a premium for the first one of each Mustang that the current SA has assembled.
And the "Legend" lives on !
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Quote from: FL SAAC on March 27, 2025, 09:09:03 AMThe "Voodoo" 5.2-liter V8 engine, known for its high-revving capabilities and powerful performance in the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350, has faced some reliability concerns, including oil consumption and potential bearing failures.
We call it the GRENADE ENGINE
Not sure how an AI generated, copy-n-paste snippet mentioning "some reliability concerns" equates to a grenade engine. Not denying the VooDoo has some concerns, not a huge surprise for an engine spending significant time above 8K rpm, plenty of similar engines in other cars with the same issues.
From my observations most of the "concern" is over-hyped internet banter spread mostly by people who have never owned, or even driven, a 2015-2020 GT350. By far most engines that actually "grenade" are in heavily tracked cars, doesn't seem surprising to me. I agree the VooDoo is at higher risk due to the way Ford built this flat plane crank engine, especially using a UDUD crank sequence as opposed to the typical FPC sequence of UDDU that everyone else uses (including the 5.5L C8 ZO6 engine) which may have increased secondary vibrations inherent in FPC engines. Still, the huge majority of cars that are street driven or lightly tracked have no issues. Oil consumption was mainly an issue with the earlier cars, Ford did fix that late in the 2018 MY with a revised piston/ring package. Turned out low tension rings and an 8250rpm redline are not a good mix.
Regardless, my point was the VooDoo made the GT350 completely unique and special, and at $60-65K, +$10-15K more for the R, it was outstanding bang for the buck. I'm sure the new car will be a good one, I'll definitely ante up for the lottery car. But IMO it will not be as special as the 2015-2020 GT350. I will however, look forward to your review after you get yours... ;)
Quote from: s2ms on March 28, 2025, 02:04:16 PMQuote from: FL SAAC on March 27, 2025, 09:09:03 AMThe "Voodoo" 5.2-liter V8 engine, known for its high-revving capabilities and powerful performance in the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350, has faced some reliability concerns, including oil consumption and Quote from: s2ms on March 28, 2025, 02:04:16 PMQuote from: FL SAAC on March 27, 2025, 09:09:03 AMThe "Voodoo" 5.2-liter V8 engine, known for its high-revving capabilities and powerful performance in the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350, has faced some reliability concerns, including oil consumption and potential bearing failures.
We call it the GRENADE ENGINE
Not sure how an AI generated, copy-n-paste snippet mentioning "some reliability concerns" equates to a grenade engine. Not denying the VooDoo has some concerns, not a huge surprise for an engine spending significant time above 8K rpm, plenty of similar engines in other cars with the same issues.
From my observations most of the "concern" is over-hyped internet banter spread mostly by people who have never owned, or even driven, a 2015-2020 GT350. By far most engines that actually "grenade" are in heavily tracked cars, doesn't seem surprising to me. I agree the VooDoo is at higher risk due to the way Ford built this flat plane crank engine, especially using a UDUD crank sequence as opposed to the typical FPC sequence of UDDU that everyone else uses (including the 5.5L C8 ZO6 engine) which may have increased secondary vibrations inherent in FPC engines. Still, the huge majority of cars that are street driven or lightly tracked have no issues. Oil consumption was mainly an issue with the earlier cars, Ford did fix that late in the 2018 MY with a revised piston/ring package. Turned out low tension rings and an 8250rpm redline are not a good mix.
Regardless, my point was the VooDoo made the GT350 completely unique and special, and at $60-65K, +$10-15K more for the R, it was outstanding bang for the buck. I'm sure the new car will be a good one, I'll definitely ante up for the lottery car. But IMO it will not be as special as the 2015-2020 GT350. I will however, look forward to your review after you get yours... ;)
We call it the GRENADE ENGINE
Not sure how an AI generated, copy-n-paste snippet mentioning "some reliability concerns" equates to a grenade engine. Not denying the VooDoo has some concerns, not a huge surprise for an engine spending significant time above 8K rpm, plenty of similar engines in other cars with the same issues.
From my observations most of the "concern" is over-hyped internet banter spread mostly by people who have never owned, or even driven, a 2015-2020 GT350. By far most engines that actually "grenade" are in heavily tracked cars, doesn't seem surprising to me. I agree the VooDoo is at higher risk due to the way Ford built this flat plane crank engine, especially using a UDUD crank sequence as opposed to the typical FPC sequence of UDDU that everyone else uses (including the 5.5L C8 ZO6 engine) which may have increased secondary vibrations inherent in FPC engines. Still, the huge majority of cars that are street driven or lightly tracked have no issues. Oil consumption was mainly an issue with the earlier cars, Ford did fix that late in the 2018 MY with a revised piston/ring package. Turned out low tension rings and an 8250rpm redline are not a good mix.
Regardless, my point was the VooDoo made the GT350 completely unique and special, and at $60-65K, +$10-15K more for the R, it was outstanding bang for the buck. I'm sure the new car will be a good one, I'll definitely ante up for the lottery car. But IMO it will not be as special as the 2015-2020 GT350. I will however, look forward to your review after you get yours... ;)
Those Ford licensed Shelby name GT350s are very nice cars.
The Voodoo when working properly is also a nice engine.
Until......kabooom!
Everyone talks about and says that C.S.M. number is not important.
But Ford piggy backed on the idea with their own "chassis number plate"
Attempting to daze and confuse those who purchased their licensed product in thinking this is the real deal, its legit we got a "chassis number" now.
Shelbeeeeeee
Here ya go, its bonafided!
Ronnie
Dont like the car, we love it
But we have too many things in the air today and unfortunately no place to put them.
When we opted to search for a 1966 GTH this raffle came up and we contributed about $2,000 to the cause
Did not win but we did get this lovely post card that we still have
Oh well
Quote from: computerworks on March 28, 2025, 10:40:08 AMLike it or not, it's an interesting offering....
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Back to what is probably the most comfortable, fastest, best handling and savage real Shelby American GT350 ever!
Looking at 800+ horse power
Quote from: FL SAAC on March 28, 2025, 03:03:59 PMBack to what is probably the most comfortable, fastest, best handling and savage real Shelby American GT350 ever!
Yes time marches on I'd be disappointed if they couldn't build a better car after 60 years. Heck CS beat up on the orig GT350 with a Dodge Omni........ But is it the "real Shelby American".
HISTORY AND ORGANIZATION OF THE COMPANY
The Company was originally organized on December 4, 2000 (Date of inception) under the laws of the State of Nevada, as Ginseng Forest, Inc. Through June 23, 2003 the Company had no operations and in accordance with SFAS No.7, the Company was considered a development stage company.
On June 23, 2003, the Company closed its previously announced agreement (the "Exchange Agreement") to acquire all of the outstanding common stock of Carroll Shelby Licensing, Inc. ("CSL") and Shelby Automobiles, Inc. ("SAI"), a recently formed entity, for 9,087,866 shares of Ginseng Forest, Inc. common stock and a promissory note issued by Ginseng Forest, Inc. to the Shelby Companies security holders in the amount of $2,000,000 due December 31, 2003. The stock exchange between the entities was considered a reverse acquisition. Under reverse acquisition accounting, CSL was considered the acquirer for accounting and financial reporting purposes, and acquired the assets and assumed the liabilities of Ginseng Forest, Inc. Ginseng Forest, Inc. had minimal assets and no liabilities. Its name was changed to Carroll Shelby International, Inc. in September, 2003.
Carroll Shelby Licensing, Inc. was originally incorporated as O T C Packaging Company in Texas on April 22, 1986. In June 1998, the Company became Shelby American Management, Inc. and a final name change to Carroll Shelby Licensing, Inc. was approved in March, 1999. Carroll Shelby Licensing, Inc. owns and licenses various trademarks and intellectual properties for Carroll Shelby and related names.
Carroll Shelby Licensing, Inc. revenues are substantially royalties derived from licensing agreements with domestic companies including manufacturers of automobiles and accessories, clothing, video games and miscellaneous items.
Shelby Automobiles Inc. ("SAI") was incorporated as a Nevada corporation in 2003 for the purpose of manufacturing high performance Shelby vehicles under the guidance of Carroll Shelby and is involved in prototype manufacturing, design and engineering projects. SAI plans to expand through a dealer network and direct sales under a license agreement with CSL. SAI began operations in the third quarter of 2003.
If you go through NV Corp records you'll find over 15 created and most no longer active. This is the 2003 activation. The first recreation of SA was revoked by NV in 1995.
SHELBY AMERICAN, INC. Active 04/04/2003 Domestic Corporation (78)
SHELBY AMERICAN, INC. Permanently Revoked 11/14/1995 Foreign Corporation (80)
As you delve into those records you'll find partnerships created for the CSX2000 and CSX4000 cars - my guess is to raise the capital to build the cars - as that is what the Series 1 partnership company was for.
Interesting SA-NV history. What was the name of the Shelby company at the the raceway complex where we had the "SAAC Does Vegas-1" event in 1996? Shelby Automobiles, Inc.? This was before the Series 1 and Venture Corp ownership.
Folks let's not dwell on the past, just admire the continuation of the lineage and heritage of this "Next One" the new GT350 and it is truly a great onell
I was totally enamored with it's very unique interior.
Could this be as the great Ricardo Montalban once said "Corinthian Leather" ?
Having witnessed it in person I would say NO to Corinthian, but YES to a very unique leather pattern.
Please enjoy what "He" said and this moment in SHELBY history .... 00003P
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 28, 2025, 09:26:38 PMInteresting SA-NV history. What was the name of the Shelby company at the the raceway complex where we had the "SAAC Does Vegas-1" event in 1996? Shelby Automobiles, Inc.? This was before the Series 1 and Venture Corp ownership.
Venture was a separate non Shelby company. They bought the Series 1 and Shelby American name to use with that project only. CS kept it for all other uses. When they tanked new investors tried to make a Series 2 after 3 prototypes that tanked. Last year the Series 2 was announced with a production run of 10 - with Ford power. A 427 FE, a Godzilla or electric.
The New GT350 were form meets function, pure S H E L B Y !