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Yes your GUESSING what i'm saying is correct. I have said it over and over and over.
EXACTLY the same.
 

 I left out A point you may or may not choose to believe.
I did search for a value on what I have before I listed those. I was honest why I did not do a .99 cent auction, I did not come here to pull off some kind of scam, yes I would have sold that for 2300 if it turned out to be worth that to someone. Yes i'm looking for exactly what I have and a sense of rarity and value and not here just to start trouble, yes I did put those out in Ebay for the world to kinda just to see. I haven't seen a over the counter Shelby script oil pan go through Ebay, but I don't look every day.
Thank you again I just wanted my original intentions to be clear.
I also do know a few things about cars, but I'm not Shelby expert.

 Pete Thank you very much for the introductions.
    I sincerely apologize for offending In any way I may have. I understand losing your patience with this topic and myself trying to get exact information on this exact shift knob.  You have done what you can to educate me Pete. Thank you. I meant you no disrespect, at the same time I do acknowledge I may have shown little. I do apologize.
    I'm really very sorry my meaning of your Story Brian was lost in my listing. I totally see how it could be. I told your story to show how things can end up where they don't belong. Not in any way to justify mine belongs in that box. I felt we were getting along in this topic. I again thank you for your time and the patients you've shown me.
Mr Tim Lea.
I am sorry I thought our conversations on Ebay held so little information that I could use to identify my shift knob and that I did not know your name to address to properly. Sincerely, Thank you for your time sir.
This whole thing has never been about the money. JR would be proud that I didn't sell it. The Oil pan and the shift knob has again done the same things it has done for me in the past. Introduced me to new people, sold some stuff , I even made a new friend and possible new customer.
I will pull my add. I will NOT sell the shift knob (unless someone wants it REAL bad) lol
At the same time it will remain with this box in my little case to be found when I pass and whomever is left here on the SAAC forum can have this discussion again some day.
I hold no ill will or thoughts to any negative jabs like getting "kicked in the balls" ..lol.. all's good.
I totally know I was walking into a lion's den with a just a chair and no whip, and whatever you think of me I feel I lived through it and I'm gonna sit down on this chair and watch the Loins.
Again Thank you all.
Sincerely David Obee

P.S. Thank you Brian for showing me your knob ( love the "HEY DAVID" note) Exactly like mine with the Shelby And the Cobra script.
  Unless I have missed it, I have not seen or been shown this Exact shift knob with both scripts in a catalog or in it's original packaging (rare indeed) OK I GET IT it doesn't go in the box I have. But in the future if someone runs across that exact knob in a catalog I'd love to have that picture and description.
Thank you.

Again Thank you TLea. I'm sorry that I don't know you personally. I'm kind of a first name kinda guy. I didn't know your name. You never signed a email.
Thank you for showing up here. If you all would read my posts carefully. I TRY to choose my words wisely. Im looking for information on mine.
lucky for this new technology I can share exactly what I said.
I Never Knocked your credibility. Im working on the credibility and information of what I have here.
Here is that part of our conversation sir:
My comment:
Well I cant sell or revise my listing accurately with this statement from a guy with no name.
Direct quote from you.
"Not ignoring. Just don't have all the Time to go to games through hundreds of piles of documentation to find what you're looking for. I have told you what you have. Right now my word is all can I give you"

It explains it right in my add why it is listed as it is. $185 reserve to start at .99
I will not put this up for $25 and roll the dice.
This is way more interesting. You gave me no help in identifying mine accurately.
I must have missed This E mail " I even offered to sell him knobs like his at what his was worth IMO.(under $100) "
I can post our entire conversation here if you like. Please send that one again.

I love the Story Brian. Thank you.  My story is a little different JR was a good friend like I stated. We were going to sell together at the Monroe Automotive swap meet in 2013. We had a great day together Friday night as we prepped our stalls, hung out, shopped others stalls and all around visiting. He passed away that evening at  home. I helped out the family for over a year past that point. I built JR's 1970 Fastback for his son to have and helped with the estate. I don't want to share all of the details but I bought a truck load of NOS parts I never knew JR owned. This is just one part.

Wow interestingly enough I just received this Email on my listing.
Does anyone have a (Ford Master Parts book (1975) ?
The Email:
I don't normally contact an EBay seller unless I'm interested in their item.

I have been collecting CS Shelby items since 1969. Also, a former CS Shelby Autosport dealer.
The item you have was sold as a Ford service part for a very brief time. The part and the box
with the part number is CORRECT. If you look in the Ford Master Parts book (1975),
this part number went obsolete very early on.

Actually, one of the coolest COBRA walnut shift knobs offered.

Thank you again for all your responses. I see Chris posted as I was typing. I have added dramatically to the listing the first time Pete and I corresponded.  Thank you.

  Thank you Brian for Curiously providing me the some information and even an approximate value instead of being defensive. I have only been trying to find out what I have.  Not dispute the accuracy of anyone elses parts. Thank you for showing me a Ebay listing of that original one also. Thank you very much sir for the effort you put in for me. I will stick around. Thank you. Phillip Thank you for your time posting the clear blue prints. I've learned a lot with a little bit of help.
Oddly enough someone else has had a very similar experience as myself. The similarities are staggering in the general "odds of this happening"
This person also replied to my Ebay listing. I withheld his name. I don't see him on here unless he uses a handle.
Enjoy.

  DAVE,
HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE SHIFTER KNOB THAT MY FRIEND HAS. YES , I EMAILED PETE ABOUT THIS COINCIDENCE. I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF FORD/SHELBY PLACED THE KNOBS IN THE FORD BOX OR IF THE OWNERS DID SWITCH OUT THE KNOBS WHEN THE NEW ONE WAS PURCHASED, WHICH IS QUITE COMMON BACK THEN. BUT IT SURE IS COINCIDENTAL THAT BOTH KNOBS, NUTS AND BOXES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AND UNUSED NOS. I HAVE CORRESPONDED WITH PETE FOR MANY YEARS WITH QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO MY DAD'S 68 SHELBY GT500. I HOPE THAT HE GIVES THIS COINCIDENCE SOME THOUGHT AND CAN SOME HOW COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I REMEMBER WHEN DOING THE RESEARCH I FOUND PHOTOS OF THE SAME KNOB WAS USED ON THE VINTAGE SHELBY RACE TEAM TRUCK HAULER. YOU HAVE A VERY NICE PIECE. REGARDS,

Just for the convenience, again here are the pictures of mine that Do not match the pictures that Brian Shared.
Also the the blueprint drawing is very hard to read.  But take a close look and that part number certainly does not end in 7213-B .  something... 1-B maybe?
and as far as the notes , totally unreadable. No top view? Most blueprints have 3 views.

Well hi guys. Sorry for stalking you.
This is actually shorter than it looks.
Dave Obee here with the shift knob for sale. Thank you for all your comments all's good.
I have many questions for Pete or any one else if you could help.
Please do help inform me when you done laughing.
I'll share a very interesting coincidence.
  Please anyone share their shift knob exactly like mine in its original box and a part number. Or a good clear picture of it in a old over the counter catalog.
Brian please share the pictures of your two.
Help me out here is my unanswered correspondence with Pete. I totally understand he has things to do, so the rest of you might help me?

Thank You Pete.
Do you know the part number of this shift knob? Is it a over the counter Ford Part? Is it an original design for any model? I didn't find this design in my internet search or any like it being for sale or sold. Besides the picture on your website, shift knob pictures or descriptions are hard to find. I did the best internet search I could. I got this after J.R. passed so I did not get to speak with him about it. He was a good friend and customer of mine.
What do you think about the oil pan?
Thank you again David.
Reply:
I love the pan, but I must admit, I dont know a lot about the non production parts. The over the counter the stuff is very cool. I think your knob is in this ad? 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-SHELBY-COBRA-VILEM-B-HAAN-SPORTS-CAR-ACCESSORIES-ORIGINAL-2-PG-PRINT-AD/273534141497?hash=item3fafe7c439:g:yt4AAOSwH71XPb6y:sc:USPSFirstClass!53508!US!-1

Interestingly, the cobra knob on the web page i showed you earlier, was probably never used on Shelbys . I suspect it was too late for production or they couldnt get a good supply. But, they are rare, especially with the S8MS box,

Pete
Thank you again Pete.
The picture you sent of the catalog had no discernible detail of a shift knob and barely readable at all. I found the exact pictures on the web with no detail. 
I read the post on SAAC and I could not open the attachment Brian Glover noted in the Michigan catalog. I hope you don't think I'm being argumentative I do appreciate the help. I hope the note in my listing isn't offensive either.
Here is the listing for a KR500 I found where I came up with a price to answer Brian's comment :
" this GT500 KR is simply spectacular throughout. Proper component and product labels and painstakingly reproduced assembly-line paint and inspection markings are found throughout the car. Other impressive details include the extremely rare NOS walnut 4-speed shifter knob with cast "Cobra" motif, which is reported to have a current value of some $2,500 alone! In addition to the aforementioned Elite Marti Report, this KR Convertible is also complete with a copy of the original Shelby dealer invoice, plus the original factory build sheet and an album documenting the car's restoration including rubbings of the"
And yes no pictures on that listing of the shift knob, and yes who "reportedly " estimated the value? 
Do you have a value of the one that belongs in that box? or the value of the one I have ?
I have looked though the catalogs that I could on line and did not find a picture of your silver medallion shift knob either.
I have your email address from you website. Would you rather I send you a note on your web page and we can talk there and quit bothering Ebay?
Thank you again. David Obee

  As far as the value this is all I have to go on. Who appraised this one? I don't know, How much is the one on the Coral snake page worth? Anyone?
An old listing. And again as far as the pricing I'm glad I didn't pay 180 for a reserve on the auction. This may be effective if you guys help out.

https://russoandsteele.com/vehicle-details/?show_vehicle=74632&current_index=0&total_results=486&auction_pk=102&=&caryear=&caryearto=&search_text=&page=&showpage=2

Vehicle to be offered for Auction sale January 15th – 19th, 2014 at Russo and Steele's 14th Annual Scottsdale Arizona Auction. Please contact us for more information.
Although Shelby American's 360-horsepower, 428 cubic-inch GT500 was already a formidable performer, a new version was unleashed for 1968 – the provocatively named "King of the Road" or "KR" – powered by Ford's hot new Cobra Jet 428 engine. Suspiciously rated at 335 horsepower to avoid the growing ire of the insurance companies but in fact pumping out at least 400 ponies and 440 foot-pounds of tire-melting torque, the CJ included a 735-cfm Holley carburetor and low-riser 427 heads along with a beefier crank, rods, and pistons. Additionally, the KR had larger brakes, under-hood suspension bracing, and staggered rear shocks to prevent axle wind-up and wheel hop under hard acceleration. A handsome convertible – Shelby's first – was also now available in limited numbers.
According to its accompanying Elite Marti Report, this GT500 KR is one of the 1,571 GT500 KRs built for 1968 and one of just 518 Convertibles produced. A special-order car, this original Highland Green GT500 KR Convertible was equipped with performance options including a rare and highly desirable four-speed Toploader manual transmission and a 3.50:1 Traction-Lok rear-end. Features and options included AM radio, GT Equipment Group, Interior Décor Group, power front disc brakes and steering, Saddle upholstery, Tilt-Away steering wheel, Visibility Group, a white power convertible top with a glass backlight, and shoulder harnesses. Following completion on July 15, 1968 at Ford's Metuchen, New Jersey Assembly Plant, the KR was delivered the next day to Jack Gibbons City Ford Inc. of Watchung, New Jersey for sale to the Shelby's first owner.
According to the current owner, this 1968 Shebly GT500 KR Convertible is believed to be a three-owner car from new. Most recently, an outstanding restoration to showroom condition was performed on the KR. As now offered for sale, this Shelby is truly incredible in its presentation and levels of authenticity, correctness, and detailing throughout the vehicle. From the correct parts, components, and finishes, to the red oxide under-body primer, impeccable chassis and underpinnings, this GT500 KR is simply spectacular throughout. Proper component and product labels and painstakingly reproduced assembly-line paint and inspection markings are found throughout the car. Other impressive details include the extremely rare NOS walnut 4-speed shifter knob with cast "Cobra" motif, which is reported to have a current value of some $2,500 alone! In addition to the aforementioned Elite Marti Report, this KR Convertible is also complete with a copy of the original Shelby dealer invoice, plus the original factory build sheet and an album documenting the car's restoration including rubbings of the Shelby's identification tags prior to restoration. Standing up to the closest scrutiny in every possible respect, this 1968 Shelby GT500 KR Convertible simply "ticks all the boxes" for collector-car excellence with its stunning restoration, presentation, performance, and rarity. As such, it is nothing less than a true "blue chip" collectible automobile that is sure to provide enduring value for its lucky new owner.

  As far as the price on the oil pan. in the Sold listings on Ebay. T pan with the VERY common Shelby script SOLD for $1995 and $1600 so that's where I started.
I'm sure well talk more.
Thank you again Sincerely Dave Obee