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Cool story & good luck & ? you mentioned original  white interior was it an Acapulco Blue with a parchment interior if so thats a pretty  rare color combo

It was just like your car, Nightmist Blue/Parchment.

Nice &  cool to think that when in 83 i was graduating from high school & that car was running around in the next town over from me in Glendora .In my probable last 5 yr quest to find my current Nightmist /parchment car i looked at a probably everyone that came to market & there was not many ,but one in particular i remember a few yrs back was a weird car .It langquised on one of the dealer websites i forget which one probably Hemmings thats always been my go to ,& it was in LA Santa Monica area at a dealer there , what was weird about it (& you might find interesting) is that it was Nightmist blue but it had a mixture of parchment & black interior ,like it had started either black or parchment & someone switched out 1/2 of the interior to one or the other,which is what i didn't like about it .Then i clearly remember all of a sudden it  ending up again on Hemmings at a at prominent dealer in Washington called Park Place Ltd where i had bought a Porsche from some years before , i remember looking at it again on there website .Hope that helps maybe in your search or you'd think you could do some kinda national vin # search, maybe if you got a contact in law enforcement .And my Nighmist car often cruises through Glendora if it makes you any happier lol

Great info thanks.  I checked with Alexa at Park Place, Ltd. and she could not find it in their data base but she stated they take plenty of cars to Barrett Jackson for clients.  I asked her to check with any salesmen that have been there for at least five years to see if anyone remembers the car.  Any idea about what year it would have been that you noticed the car there ? 

I've tried the national VIN search with a friend in law enforcement but they didn't come up with anything. Glad you found your car and thanks for the info, every little bit helps.

Jim

You need to run both VIN's if you haven't already. The Shelby VIN and the Ford VIN . Many times the car for whatever reason is registered with the Ford  VIN instead of the Shelby one.

Hello Bob,

Dave Mathews assisted me in speaking with Kevin Marti to make sure the Ford VIN had never been used to pull a Marti Report but they would not give me the Ford VIN so I could check the Federal data base.  I remember a story here in SoCal whereby some CHP officer(s) thought it was cute to force Shelby owners to register their car as a Ford Mustang using the Ford VIN but not certain if that's just a myth, it wouldn't surprise me though.  I understand the security issues surrounding Kevin Marti or Dave providing me with the Ford VIN but I'd love to be able to search the Ford VIN as well.

I own several '67 GT500's and other collectible cars that I have purchased Marti reports for but Kevin Marti does not know me personally.  I'm not the kind of guy to use that info for nefarious purposes but Kevin doesn't know that about me.  Any chance you could ask him ?  I'm sure he recognizes your name and trusts you.  I have spoken to you a couple times about my cars and restoration markings, a roll bar from one of your very early cars that I own, etc but realize you don't know me personally either.  Although I would like the Ford VIN for my records, I would also be ok with paying someone to search the Ford VIN if that's possible.  I know the car was registered in 90/91 to John Frimand in Glendora, CA but I'm unsure past that date.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,  Jim
949-370-8699
Bigblueovalfan@gmail.com

Jim ,the Ford VIN being forced on Shelby owners to use on titles and registration is not a myth . It happened in the past and most likely still happens in some areas. Typically it is for uninformed reasons rather then malicious intent although I have been on the receiving end of such a inspector who took just a little too much delight in "bringing in a Shelby and sending out a Mustang". I would like very much to help you in your quest but I will not be able to help figure out your Ford VIN . I get asked 3 or 4 times a year since I know Dave could I find out the Ford VIN number for a given car or the Shelby number for a Ford VIN. I have never asked . I know that if Dave bends the rules for one he has to for all. I stand by ready to help in other ways if needed however. Bob

Bob,

Thanks for the clarification on the CHP/DMV titling cars with the Ford VIN, it does not surprise me one bit, I've had my fair share of dealing with less than brilliant and even malicious people in those government entities.  I appreciate any assistance whatsoever, whether it be reaching out to your list of contacts or asking people who may know who have collections, anything at all.  I'll give Dave a call and see if he has contacts with a PI who can research the Ford VIN on a federal data base without giving it away.  Thank you once again for taking the time to respond and help me in this search.

Thanks, Jim
949-370-8699
Bigblueovalfan@gmail.com

Park Place LTD sold a Nightmist Blue / Parchment car not long ago. It was #00932

https://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1967-Ford-Shelby-GT500-Fastback/995/67402F4A00932

Thank you for that.  I searched on their website and the gal I spoke with, Alexa, did as well.  How did you find that ?  Any chance I could pay you to search for #820 ?  Thank you again for helping me clear one more car off my list. 

Cool story & good luck & ? you mentioned original  white interior was it an Acapulco Blue with a parchment interior if so thats a pretty  rare color combo

It was just like your car, Nightmist Blue/Parchment.

Nice &  cool to think that when in 83 i was graduating from high school & that car was running around in the next town over from me in Glendora .In my probable last 5 yr quest to find my current Nightmist /parchment car i looked at a probably everyone that came to market & there was not many ,but one in particular i remember a few yrs back was a weird car .It langquised on one of the dealer websites i forget which one probably Hemmings thats always been my go to ,& it was in LA Santa Monica area at a dealer there , what was weird about it (& you might find interesting) is that it was Nightmist blue but it had a mixture of parchment & black interior ,like it had started either black or parchment & someone switched out 1/2 of the interior to one or the other,which is what i didn't like about it .Then i clearly remember all of a sudden it  ending up again on Hemmings at a at prominent dealer in Washington called Park Place Ltd where i had bought a Porsche from some years before , i remember looking at it again on there website .Hope that helps maybe in your search or you'd think you could do some kinda national vin # search, maybe if you got a contact in law enforcement .And my Nighmist car often cruises through Glendora if it makes you any happier lol

Great info thanks.  I checked with Alexa at Park Place, Ltd. and she could not find it in their data base but she stated they take plenty of cars to Barrett Jackson for clients.  I asked her to check with any salesmen that have been there for at least five years to see if anyone remembers the car.  Any idea about what year it would have been that you noticed the car there ? 

I've tried the national VIN search with a friend in law enforcement but they didn't come up with anything. Glad you found your car and thanks for the info, every little bit helps.

Jim

You need to run both VIN's if you haven't already. The Shelby VIN and the Ford VIN . Many times the car for whatever reason is registered with the Ford  VIN instead of the Shelby one.

Hello Bob,

Dave Mathews assisted me in speaking with Kevin Marti to make sure the Ford VIN had never been used to pull a Marti Report but they would not give me the Ford VIN so I could check the Federal data base.  I remember a story here in SoCal whereby some CHP officer(s) thought it was cute to force Shelby owners to register their car as a Ford Mustang using the Ford VIN but not certain if that's just a myth, it wouldn't surprise me though.  I understand the security issues surrounding Kevin Marti or Dave providing me with the Ford VIN but I'd love to be able to search the Ford VIN as well.

I own several '67 GT500's and other collectible cars that I have purchased Marti reports for but Kevin Marti does not know me personally.  I'm not the kind of guy to use that info for nefarious purposes but Kevin doesn't know that about me.  Any chance you could ask him ?  I'm sure he recognizes your name and trusts you.  I have spoken to you a couple times about my cars and restoration markings, a roll bar from one of your very early cars that I own, etc but realize you don't know me personally either.  Although I would like the Ford VIN for my records, I would also be ok with paying someone to search the Ford VIN if that's possible.  I know the car was registered in 90/91 to John Frimand in Glendora, CA but I'm unsure past that date.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,  Jim
949-370-8699
Bigblueovalfan@gmail.com

Cool story & good luck & ? you mentioned original  white interior was it an Acapulco Blue with a parchment interior if so thats a pretty  rare color combo

It was just like your car, Nightmist Blue/Parchment.

Nice &  cool to think that when in 83 i was graduating from high school & that car was running around in the next town over from me in Glendora .In my probable last 5 yr quest to find my current Nightmist /parchment car i looked at a probably everyone that came to market & there was not many ,but one in particular i remember a few yrs back was a weird car .It langquised on one of the dealer websites i forget which one probably Hemmings thats always been my go to ,& it was in LA Santa Monica area at a dealer there , what was weird about it (& you might find interesting) is that it was Nightmist blue but it had a mixture of parchment & black interior ,like it had started either black or parchment & someone switched out 1/2 of the interior to one or the other,which is what i didn't like about it .Then i clearly remember all of a sudden it  ending up again on Hemmings at a at prominent dealer in Washington called Park Place Ltd where i had bought a Porsche from some years before , i remember looking at it again on there website .Hope that helps maybe in your search or you'd think you could do some kinda national vin # search, maybe if you got a contact in law enforcement .And my Nighmist car often cruises through Glendora if it makes you any happier lol

Great info thanks.  I checked with Alexa at Park Place, Ltd. and she could not find it in their data base but she stated they take plenty of cars to Barrett Jackson for clients.  I asked her to check with any salesmen that have been there for at least five years to see if anyone remembers the car.  Any idea about what year it would have been that you noticed the car there ? 

I've tried the national VIN search with a friend in law enforcement but they didn't come up with anything.  Glad you found your car and thanks for the info, every little bit helps.

Jim

Thanks guys.  Trying to reach out to as many people as possible.  Sorry if I double posted.

Cool story & good luck & ? you mentioned original  white interior was it an Acapulco Blue with a parchment interior if so thats a pretty  rare color combo

It was just like your car, Nightmist Blue/Parchment.

As the title states, I'm looking for '67 GT500 car# 820 (full Shelby vin# 67400F2U00820).  I owned this car as a kid (17 yo) and built it into a street racer that I raced off of Whittier Blvd, CA back in 1981-83.  I lived in Downey, CA at the time and sold it to Duane Karam in '83, who lived in Glendora, CA.  It was sold to a couple more guys in Glendora and the trail goes cold in 1990/91 when it was sold to a guy who supposedly owned some Boss 302 Mustangs and some Panteras and who claimed he planned to completely restore it.  I built a 427 side oiler (stroked with a 428 crank) and changed the interior from white to balck.  Could be in any condition now.  Dave Mathews does not have any further info on it and I checked with Kevin Marti but no report has even been pulled on it.  I would love the opportunity to buy it back or trade it for another one of my '67 GT500's that I currently own.  I would like to offer a reward to anyone who can provide me with info that leads to me putting eyes on the car.  I thank each and every one of you who took the time to read my post and assist in the effort to find this car.

Here is a pic of it circa '83

Thanks,  Jim 949-370-8699 or Bigblueovalfan@gmail.com

Will do.

Haven't tried that yet but it would be well worth it.  Up until about 4 months ago I didn't have the Shelby VIN and couldn't remember who it was I sold it to so now I can really ramp up the search.  Both great suggestions, thanks.

#820 is in the Registry, there is just not much info other than the dealer it was delivered to and the 1st owner.  I don't understand what you mean by the VIN's being mixed up, they seem to be in order to me.  Did I miss something ?

No kidding, lol.  I had a fear early on it could have been my old car because the guy I bought it from worked as a NARC for LAPD and he was in partnership with another LEO in the selling of this vehicle and it had been parted out (drivetrain was missing).  So for years, even though Dave said no, I always had a sinking feeling it could be.  Glad it's not,  that car "if" ever found will be ungodly expensive.

Thanks, just wish I had held on to it.  I'm just glad it's not car #939, lol.

So it's been a long haul but I caught a break in my search for my old 1967 Shelby GT500. Thanks to a great community of car guys and my new friend who I sold the car to back in 1983, Duane Karam. If anyone knows anymore information or recognizes the car, place, people, please reach out to me. The car was later sold by Duane to Mike Johnson, who owned it for a couple years and then sold to John Frimand who sold it around 90/91 to someone who claimed to be performing a full restoration. John does not remember who the guy was he sold it to so the trail has gone cold but the big break is that we have the VIN now. Here is a pic of what it looked like around 1983 just after I sold it to Duane and most importantly, the Shelby VIN is 67400F2U00820 which was an original Dark Metallic Blue, White Interior, 4spd, non-thermactor, non-AC car. I changed the interior to black in 82.

I lived in Downey, CA and sold the car to Duane who lived in Glendora, CA. Mike Johnson who is the next owner also lived in Glendora, CA, he sold it to John Frimand who also lived in Glendora, CA. John stated he sold it to a guy who lived on a side street off of Grand Ave in Glendora, CA who owned some Panteras and Boss mustangs and claimed he intended to perform a full restoration on the car. This was back in 90/91.  John Frimand would have been the last known registered owner of the car and sold it for aprox $11,000.

I've checked with Dave Mathews who is the 67 Registrar and he has no more info other than the original buyer in 67.  Both the Ford and Shelby VIN's have been run through the NMVTIS federal datatbase and nothing shows up.  I also checked with Kevin Marti to see if a report has ever been pulled and they said no. This tells me it's probably never been restored and could be sitting in a garage somewhere.

In the background is Duane's 1968 Shelby GT350 which is car# 3166 which is also lost and he is looking for. Any info for that car should be passed along to Duane.

***Reward to anyone who puts me in touch with the current owner***

Thanks to everyone and best of luck in all of your searches.  Any help is greatly appreciated.