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Messages - TXLakester

#1
Original power disc mc bore from 67-70 was 1.0"
#2
The honest truth is I did not want a concours Shelby because my nature is to modify the heck out of everything.  That is why I was OK swapping my 65 Vette for the "rebodied" Shelby.  The non original body meant I could do whatever I wanted. The misunderstanding on my part was that it was a Shelby that the owner had to replace major body parts due to damage.  Turns out, that was not the case.  It was a fraudulent car. 

I have owned a modified 66 GT fastback since 1992.  It has a Dart aluminum 427 stroker and TKO600 with Cobra disc brakes, power R&P, power brakes, power locks and windows.  The car was centerfold in Mustang Monthly back in 2006.   I also have a restomod 56 F100..  I think I can be happier just learning to enjoy the stuff I already own.  It was a lifelong dream to own a KR.  Now I can check that box off the list.  Sort of...

#3
Not sure if it means anything or not, but the driver of the rig that picked it up was Russian.
#4
Live and learn.
3210 now has another owner.  I sold it with full disclosure of everything I have learned here.
Thanks to everyone for the education.

It is now someone else's problem. Luckily I was able to get back a bit more than I had in it.
#5
Was it stated somewhere that 3210 was one of his original cars that is being auctioned?  Or just another 3210 clone they built?  I did not see numbers anywhere?

I am into this car for under $50k. I knew it was not the original body when I bought it, but was shown info from the Shelby registry where the car was supposedly found in a Dallas junk yard and thn was rebodied.  That is where I fell for the story.
I am perfectly happy with the car itself considering what I have in it. I know it is not a thoroughbred Shelby with original parts.
But I do not like the idea of a totally fraudulent title. I have considering asking the DMV to issue a new VIN and title without the 3210 on it, but my concern is they may want to just confiscate the car. They can call it a Kia for all I care. I just want to be able to enjoy the car without fear of loss, or to cause my grandson to get in trouble should he inherit it from me.

I would rest easier if I knew the current status of "real 3210".
#6
The dealer that sold the car at the Mechum auction was from OKlahoma. I bought it from the guy that bought it at the auction. Care to elaborate on the sad outcome?  I am now very curious of all the tainted history of this car.  I guess I am the new poster child.
I have been dealing with Mustangs since early 80's. Just have never come across a dishonest Mustanger before. I guess this is just a different game at a different level.
#7
If anyone knows of a good lawyer who has experience in this kind of thing, I am open to contact.
#8
Bob, thanks for your input. Shot down my last ray of hope, but I would rather have the truth.  I really do appreciate all the input received here. I just wish I had not trusted the seller's explanation of a rebody.  I was ok with a rebody, but it appears the truth is, there was no car to rebody. It was just built from scratch.  There are no stamped VINS anywhere. The fender, door and dash tags are fakes. The pictures posted from ebay match the car. Uneven door and quarter gaps match, as do the cracks in the door latch screw holes.
Again, I am ok with the car itself considering what I paid for it, but the possibility of having purchased something illegal that could come back on me is unacceptable.  I just wish I had not trusted what I was told.  In reality, I am not sure the seller knew all the details.  Since it was not trying to be passed off as an all original car, I was not too concerned. But the VIN issues as a totally faked car are a whole 'nother story.
#9
Yes, it has wraparound big block shock towers.  No numbers under the fender edge right or left side or under the Shelby VIN tag on the left inner fender.  Only that dash tag is on the car and a reproduction Shelby apron tag and door tag.  I am assuming the big block shock towers and inner fenders were installed using preassembled aftermarket parts like the ones on CJPony for $2,500 per side.
#10
Does this VIN tag from the dash look legit?  I have obscured the consecutive number for posting purposes, but the number does match the title and the title has 03210 at the end of this tag number.

From what I can tell the car had complete big block shock towers/inner fenders installed, eliminating any hard VIN stamps.

Hey, I don't mind any criticism of comments. I am just trying to figure out what to do. The fact is, someone sold this car to ME and I now own it.  Just trying to keep myself out of legal issues.  It seems I have stepped in something and can't get it off my shoes.

Maybe revise my will.  Destroy car upon my death after canceling insurance ...

Wondering if my legal recourse involves s lawyer and contacting seller about the issue.
#11
On your Shelby title, is the manufacturer and car info listed as Ford or Shelby?  Is the car listed as a Mustang or a GT500?  Just trying to figure out if some other shenanigans occurred when the car was titled in Oklahoma and the transferred to TX.

Again, thanks to everyone for the enlightenment on this car. I have no idea what course to take other than to just enjoy the car and never sell it.  Wondering if I should approach the one who sold it to me with demand to take it back.  He is not the original seller of the car either. I think he bought it at a Mechum auction.
#12
Quote from: 557 on January 10, 2020, 09:39:57 AM
Is the car actually registered under that Shelby vin? Because.......

What exactly is this post inferring?
#13
I figured the car was mostly just a clone. It does have the dash vin tag showing the Shelby's original Ford serial number that matches the Ford part of the full Shelby vin. Like stated, I know it is not much of an original car, but suits my needs as something interesting to drive that is one step up from a T code clone.  After seeing full cloned cars with T code titles going for over $100k lately, I am hoping it will at least have the same value as a clone built car.  Like stated, my Vette was worth about $40k.
At local shows, it allows people to at least see what a Shelby looks like, since it is very rare to see a concours example show up. 

I do appreciate any and all comments, pro or con. Hopefully nothing criminal was done by the car builder. I was fully informed about the rebody thing when I got it. Is there really a concern the damaged original body could reappear?
#14
I have been into Mustangs for ever, and have owned over 40 of them and owned a Mustang restomod parts business, so am pretty well educated on those.  But, never owned a Shelby until now.

I traded a mediocre 65 Corvette convertible for #3210 Shelby KR convertible.  I understand the car was rebodied at some point.  For my purposes, the rebody does not matter to me. And I could not afford, nor do I want, a concours car.  The Vette was only worth about $40k, and I had been looking at Shelby clones for $50k.  So, I figure, worst case, I have a real nice clone for a real decent price.

The car has an incorrect CJ from a 69, and an AOD tranny. Body and looks and interior are pretty nice.  Of course, it has mostly aftermarket parts from Branda, I suppose.  Registry says it was found in an abandoned junkyard in Dallas. I figure if it was in a junkyard, it must have been hit hard, and all the Shelby parts probably disappeared in the first two weeks.  And for it to have been left behind when the yard was abandoned... well, I can imagine what was left.

Someone did a fair job reassembling the car with aftermarket parts so it looks legit to those who are not experts. 

I am fine with the car and just want to make it a nice driver.  If I ever did sell it, it would be explained as to what it is.

My question is this.  Does anyone here know anything about this car?  I don't know if it was junked in 1969 or at a later date.   Or any info at all?   I plan to restore it to make sure everything works as it is supposed to (something the previous assembler did not aspire to) and make it look right. Someone put a ton of money into it, so I think I am OK moneywise with it.  Just would like to see if there is any actual knowledge of the history of the car.