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Was able to find two more and make into Rotunda filters assembly line correct for 66 GT350. Please email or PM if interested. $70 each which includes USA shipping.

Thanks,
Dave

Very saddened to hear this. IIRC he posted his 68 GT500KR for sale here a couple years ago after receiving the cancer diagnosis. RIP.

Hi all,

The tachometer on 6S2299 is the later style with the pointy needle, usually considered an OTC part.  However, since this a very late build car, do you think it is the assembly line tachometer or service part?  That style of tachometer was available in the early part of 1966.   I have a April 14, 1966 tachometer, same style.  Thoughts?  When did Faria make the switch from straight needle to pointy needle?  When did SAI start receiving the pointy needle later style tachometers?

Thanks

Cory

Hi Cory,

From my notes the latest straight needle tach I've seen was dated 11/20/66 and the earliest pointed needle tach was dated 3/17/66.

I see no reason why both could not have been used in late 66 GT350's.

Dave

Thanks Cory. Interesting that the cars are staged very similarly but the garage doors are different, look white in the first photo and much darker in your third photo.

A few other observations:

1. Shocks look orangeish....Koni's?
2. Looks like black valve covers with natural fins. Could be closed letter or painted open letter.
3. Engine, at least the heads, appear blue.

A salute of gratitude to all who served. Thank you.

Door panel trim passenger side different

1965 door panel and glove box door. This is the first Hertz prototype 6S048, a long lost converted carryover car.

Wow, very cool. Now if Ford will only bring back the Ranger with 2 doors and 6 ft bed....

Also possible the proportioning valve is sticking, is yours adjustable? If it is and this happens again you might try that.

Thanks for the testing. The sender you received looks like a typical contemporary aftermarket part, completely different than the photo shown on Daniel Carpenter's website link.

Just heard from Jim Woods (rockhouse66) who has restored many of our distributors, he's in Clyde, NC. Says "No power or internet and phone is sketchy" but hoping for improvements by next week.

I see that the unit that Dave shows in the pictures has the cursive Ford type F along with the 260 stamp in it. Is that correct OE 65/66 289 hipo style or what they would've used from SA? Sounds like the main difference is the lack of red on the insulator, correct?
Thanks

I believe the 65 Cobra intake used the smaller diameter C5DZ sender.

Thanks Bob, have you seen the water temp sensors that Dennis Carpenter makes with the red insulator? Thoughts?

Not Bob, but other than the lack of correct stamped markings, the Dennis Carpenter red insulator looks pretty nice to me...

https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/cars/cooling-system/temperature-senders/c6dz-10884-b-temperature-sender-p65

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Thanks Brian!

Gets a little more confusing with the info in the 60-68 MPC and Bob Mannel's SBF book, both show the white insulator -A sensor was used on V8's:

1960-68 MPC: (only showing Mustang applications to keep it simple)
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C6DZ-10884-A, stamped 250, 3/8"-18 pipe thread, includes white insulator:
- 1966 - 6-cylinder
- 1967-68 - all except 428CJ

C6DZ-10884-B, stamped 260, 3/8"-18 pipe thread, includes red insulator:
- 1966 - 8-cylinder (289, 390, 428)
- 1968 - 428CJ


Bob Mannel's SBF Book: (only lists SBF applications, I'm only showing Mustangs)
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C6DZ-10884-A, stamped 250, 3/8"-18 pipe thread, 1-5/8" long, white insulator:
- 1967-69 Mustang (SBF)

C6DZ-10884-B, stamped 260, 3/8"-18 pipe thread, 1-5/8" long, red insulator:
- 1966 Mustang (SBF)

Hi guys,

Please educate us.  What does the white and red colored sender mean?  Is it the temperature range of the sender, or does it pair with certain year cars and temperature gauges.

I ask because I had a old sender that was reading low on the temperature gauge.  I swapped out for an aftermarket sender and the gauge read really high.  With the old and new sender, I checked the temperatures with an infrared thermometer on different engine parts and the values were in acceptably ranges and matched.  I then try a different gauge I got the same result.  I then swapped the sender again and got a more normal reading on the temperature gauge.  What am I missing?

Thanks
Cory

Hi Cory,

The C6DZ-10884-B sender was mostly used in V8's starting in 1966, it (typically) has a red insulator and 260* temp rating. The C6DZ-10884-A sender was mostly used in 6-cyl but IIRC also some V8's in 1967 and later, it has a white insulator and 250* temp rating. Temp ratings are stamped on one sender nut face. Not near an MPC at the moment but that will have all the details. Bob Mannel's book also has a nice SFB breakdown.

Dave

Simple enough to put some red Dykem dye on the insulator so as to make it look as expected.

Thanks Bob, I'll give that a try...