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Just wanted to share that last night we had the combined WASAAC and WABOSS Holiday party at the Hydroplane and Raceboat museum in Kent Washington. Originally we were planning an event at the Hydroplane museum for the BOSS owners group in Washington State, However Mark Hovander who is the President of WASAAC and a BOSS 302 Owner for a long time asked about possibly combing the two groups together so we had a combined party that was catered by the Olive Garden. A good time was had by all and nobody was expected to bring their cars. That was alright as there was plenty of exciting big bore monsters on display to enjoy.


The very beautiful Miss Budweiser greeted us as we arrived at the parking lot


In addition the Miss Bardahl was their to greet us as well!


Once inside other historic Thunderboats were there among the tables.


An inline 6 Fairchild engine an Allison V12 and a Rolls Royce Griffon were there next to the catering table to be looked at.



Both groups were represented on the centerpieces of the tables.


After dinner all the folks that wanted to got a very good view of the Squire Shop Race boat.
The boats driver gave Brad Haskin gave about a twenty minute talk after dinner and even had a 5 minute video of some 130 MPH laps in the Squire shop Boat. The museum takes their boats out for demos every summer and you can even book a ride.

It was a great party and is making us think about the next party already. The next location wont be announced until later.

John

Bill is a good guy. Local to me so it was a win win to have him restore my sender..

Pat

I have heard High praise and intend to use him in the future however if you don't have a usable original core that can be made presentable to start with his service will be of no use. Sorry I do not have a good read on the repro market otherwise I would make a suggestion.

Sometimes Bill has a usable core in his inventory of parts. You just have to check.


John

Any suggestions for a reliable repro fuel sending unit?
Application is for a 69 3/8 line.
Are the stainless steel units any good.
The big Mustang suppliers list several for the same application and it is confusing.
I'd like to hit on the best unit whether stainless or not.

Thanks,
TonyS 

Tony,
Forget everything that is not real, send your part here;
https://desertclassicparts.com/fuel-sending-unit-rebuilding-service/

Nice story I could hear Rush in the background singing the red Barchetta.

Ha Ha  that was my exact thought part way through...great minds...

Unfortunately with all of the political operations going on I can now see rumblings below the surface of something I once couldn't imagine. Banning the muscle cars, and eventually all private owned cars.


John

Nice story I could hear Rush in the background singing the red Barchetta.

IMO no way the curve results will ID a distributor.  Most of the ones I work on have been messed with.

Agreed on both counts.

Thanks for the reply.  Second question is at what distributor rpm is the 13 degrees achieved?

From the Ford Spec sheet

C5OF-12127-E
  650 RPM - 2 1/4° to 3 3/4°
  750 RPM - 4° to 5 1/2°
1,000 RPM - 6 1/2° to 7 1/2°
1,600 RPM - 7 1/2° to 8 3/4°
2,000 RPM - 8 1/4° to 9 3/4°
Steady advance from 9 3/4° to 13°
At some point around 2,500 RPM the distributor max advance is 13°
The limit is 14°

Those numbers are distributor machine numbers


John

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Thank you for the heads up, I had seen that one and can't get my head around why someone would need blast the part. The second part of the story I can't get my head around is why with a BOSS 429 distributor would you have to remove this piece to use a Pertronix ignition. So even though the price isn't bad... I'm not sure the part might not be bad.

[As you can see the points cam on the left has a very rough finish, most importantly it is flat on every face. The distributor points cams are not flat on each face you can see the line in the middle of the points cam face on the right. This is as it should be to keep the points from bouncing at speed.]

I have a distributor here that needs a Points cam the Ford part number is C9AZ-12210-A, The Autolite part number is DF-371. The distributor arrived with a cam that was apparently placed in a rotary head and machined flat every 45°. and they did a poor job of that as well. So I need one of these. Please contact me if you have one of these that is available. Thank you tutorial below.


As you can see the points cam on the left has a very rough finish, most importantly it is flat on every face. The distributor points cams are not flat on each face you can see the line in the middle of the points cam face on the right. This is as it should be to keep the points from bouncing at speed.


In addition as most of you have seen before there is a counterbore on top of the points cam that allows the standard rotor to be used instead of a special shortened version that would be another super rare can't find part for the BOSS 302, BOSS 429, BOSS 351 or 72 HO 351 cars.


Putting the points cam together with a standard one you can see that in addition to the counterbore the points cam overall height is taller than a standard part.

If you are buying a used distributor pay attention to the condition of the parts that are hard to find and expensive when missing. Thank You,



John

2112,

Here are a couple of images of the intake after the final tuning drive, The Dyno session has been scheduled so more updates to follow. If you thought it looked good on the bench....

. You can EASILY de value your engine by porting it.

    I suppose if your referring to the possibility of "holing-thru" the casting, I can understand your perspective; otherwise if the porting work is executed properly, even if done conservatively so as to reduce the likelihood of failure, I really feel that this can be of a significant value enhancement for those whom really want to drive and enjoy their car in a spirited manor. 

I don't consider a hydraulic camshaft an upgrade-especially to a hipo. It ain't a hipo unless it sounds like a hipo. 

    Now here, I just can't disagree.  After all, having the "Hi-Po" and not having the "clickety-clack" sound from the valve-train just doesn't seem right, something would be missing. 

    Scott.

plus one on both points.

I would assume you're the only person willing to pay the ransom.  You have the car it belongs in and no one else.  If you say "not interested" what could this person realize on a sale?  Was the asking price established  prior to you becoming an interested party?  Certainly the block may only worth $8K to the current caretaker of your car (you).  This seller seems to be an opportunist and not an enthusiast of all things Shelby American. Sad circumstances you have to deal with such greed. Fair and reasonable would be a swap for your motor + small premium.

I would assume you're the only person willing to pay the ransom.  You have the car it belongs in and no one else.  If you say "not interested" what could this person realize on a sale?  Was the asking price established  prior to you becoming an interested party?  Certainly the block may only worth $8K to the current caretaker of your car (you).  This seller seems to be an opportunist and not an enthusiast of all things Shelby American. Sad circumstances you have to deal with such greed. Fair and reasonable would be a swap for your motor + small premium. 

Good luck with Mr Potter

Good luck with Mr Potter

Yes that's what's upsets me - but on the bright side SFM6S853 will now be complete again.

I'm sorry, If someone called me with the object of selling me my original block for a ransom I'd get their contact information and put it on the website and tell them to pound sand. This is NOT the reason any of us got into the hobby, end of story. If the guy is in the hobby congratulations he has just joined the "Screw me over on anything that I ever need club". In the future when someone wants to know why you don't have your original block post a link to this clowns information.

At some point someone needs to just say, hey I drive my car, if you charge me too much for my numbers matching block I'll just put holes in it when the rods leave the crankshaft.

Blow him off he has a customer base of 1...


John

Is it this? 

Yes it is,

The next adventure is starting.....

Sometimes (99%) of the time it's not about the cars, it's all about the people. There are quite a few people who will try and be first in line to buy that car. I've always told my wife that the first person who comes to her about buying any of my stuff is NOT the person that I want to have my stuff.

She has a list of people that I would trust to help her choose where my stuff goes. I would suspect that this cat did also.


John

I agree, i have a list of the few people i would trust with my almost 6 decades of collecting this stuff.
Told the wife to get my buddies to clear out all the Shelby stuff, toss it in the F350 Dually, or the trailer with the car, hook it all together and start calling. I started a inventory list of all the crap I've got and its a lot more than I remember. I even have some duplicates of stuff that she is instructed to just give away "to the right people"

My daughter and I have put together an Excel spreadsheet sheet that not only lists everything, but where I have it in storage.


John