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It is too bad you wasted the time and money going to look at it...

We all figured your findings would be true.


Thanks for taking the time to update interested parties.

My thoughts are on stock cars that left the factories are this: If it was sold as a race car or turned into a race car from day one a conundrum is what livery do you end up at? The very first configuration? A later one if the car had the most success as that livery? So take this car my thoughts are restore it to stock or as raced livery. The end product is neither? Am I correct on this? Of course opinions vary but you are not getting a car restored to what it ever was "back in the day". You are buying a modified 65 Shelby whereas the value is in how stock/original" it is or how it was when modified to race at some point.

Just my personal two cents worth-----If the car has vintage race history, be it on day 1, or day 800, at least to me, it should be kept as a race prepped car. If the current owner wants to restore it to stock, that is his or her prerogative, their car, their money. As far as SFM5S208 is concerned, the current owner/seller was so focused on the money spent on the car, but failed to realize that you can easily be on the wrong side of the economic equation when it comes to restoring an antique car that those figures do not matter. Same goes for the quality of the restoration, or the attention to detail of the same. As of right now, in the current market, he must now realize that he will be losing money with the sale, as there is less of a chance of finding an uninformed buyer just looking to scratch that "Shelby itch".

Bill

Bill,

You are 100 percent correct.

Josh
Aka
SBCARGUY

The seller provided yet another master-class on how to alienate potential buyers that have legitimate questions by accusing them of sandbagging his auction. After three massive fails in 18 months he has likely tainted 5s208 for future transactions.

Its sad as it deserves a better showing regardless of it's actual condition

It is pretty simple.
The seller either has no idea what he has or he is trying to hide the actual truth...
I bet most of the sheet metal has been replaced as most of those cars in PERU were road extremely hard and I know this because I used to own one.
The seller will not give any real information except call people names and we all know the entire drivetrain is not original and of course it was "supposedly" restored as a R model.
I might have  actually bid on it IF HE PROVIDED ANY WORTHWHILE INFORMATION
Good Grief, I am shocked it got to $325k, $295k and now $247K 

I think he attacked you as you were selling your white 66 auto at the time? He kept calling your 66 a Hertz car also? It's nice you use your same handle here as on BaT. I'm close on my name.

Yes... he appears to be quite a guy... 

It is pretty simple.
The seller either has no idea what he has or he is trying to hide the actual truth...
I bet most of the sheet metal has been replaced as most of those cars in PERU were road extremely hard and I know this because I used to own one.
The seller will not give any real information except call people names and we all know the entire drivetrain is not original and of course it was "supposedly" restored as a R model.
I might have actually bid on it IF HE PROVIDED ANY WORTHWHILE INFORMATION
Good Grief, I am shocked it got to $325k, $295k and now $247K 

Thanks All...

Its a Very Special Car.

Never Restored and only a coat of paint 50 years ago...

All original drivetrain, never removed from the car.

Original Sheet Metal etc.

Thanks for the clarification...

My YouTube page probably shows a "few" different cars. 

I believe you are mistaken....

I just double checked and all the videos on the BAT listing are of this car and its an Automatic.

I had to check to make sure as I have owned (9) 65s and (7) 66s.

Thanks!

Anyone who has questions... Post them here, pm me or post them on BAT...

It is a very original car....

Thanks Brian for sharing the link

No Reserve...

Auction House did not run the high bidder up...

Some recent BaT cars

6S1884 - sold for $149,500

6S814 sold for $130,000

6S1387 sold for $132,000

Not really sure you can attribute that to the seller

Since those are ALL Automatic Hertz cars....

They really do not compare in Value to a 4 Speed, Non-Hertz Car...

The seller might have done better "if" he had someone run the auction for him or... Added more photos or documented the "claims".

Based upon the information we all had... He should have taken the $175,500 (including the BAT Fee)

That is a great price for the seller, you wonder what he thinks it is worth.

MORE... and it might have done it if he did a better job marketing it on BAT...

If the last 66 is at $250,000 with fees...
....What is a Shelby with #0001 worth?

MORE....

Lack of seller involvement... Lack of Pertinent Information... Hence the result...

It looked to me like this thread did start out about the out-of- the-ordinary price paid for such a car that was not 100% correct and quickly spiraled into more. The seller did mention a few times in his comments that he reached out to an "expert" or two for advise and even offered to pay for their time to assess the car, but received no reply back to assist him.  Who exactly did he reach out to?  It sounds like the seller tried to do his due diligence before selling the car. 

There would definitely be an issue for a buyer and seller of any car if the car has been re-bodied or fraudulently and knowingly mis-represented (I am not making any accusations about this particular GT500KR because I have never examined it in person or had any interest in it).  As Mr. Lea stated, "Re-bodies are real they exist there are even people here on the forum that have done them and should be exposed for what they are".  I agree that anyone who is guilty of this and knowingly represents a car for what it really isn't should be publicly exposed along with the car itself so the next seller/buyer are aware of what the car really is.  We do not need people like this in the hobby.
It certainly is unfortunate that the integrity of some of these cars is lost by "armchair critics".  When something on a car is in question, it may deserve an in person inspection by an expert to answer and/or disqualify any assumptions made about the car.

Just my 2 cents.

Very Well Said.