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#1
Quote from: CompetitionSvo on January 22, 2024, 07:44:17 PM
Hi all

this is my car, the CEO1 as I call it.  Built on a real 93 Cobra black/black car.  No detail was left out, from the emission decal, door jamb alteration label to the ID plates. 

I have done a couple SAAC "clones" previously, most notably the red MKII convertible I called 022.

I was lucky to have lived in Dearborn. Most of my life, was around these things came out originally. Huge fan from the beginning... I am the administrator of the "SAAC Mustangs" Facebook group. 

I couldn't have reached the level of detail without the help of Dave Eber, he was instrumental in getting this car correct.  according to Dave, they had planned on building one Cobra enhancement option vehicle, but the customer was in California and they were not able to secure a cobra with the California emission option, so the car was never built.

Nice to meet you Andrew!   I'm wondering if we crossed paths in the past, as I was also a prior owner of multiple SVO's and a member of (2) of the original SVO sites, under similar user ID's on both.  I'm not on any of the other social media (FB, Insta, Tik, etc).... but a known contributor to many Mustang forums.  IMO, the forums retain "history" better than any of the other social media platforms and it's far easier to track back, reference, or research forums when and where needed.  Therefore I don't think I can even view your SAAC FB page without being a member.

I came across the article about your SAAC CEO replica and was amazed at the level of detail.  I decided to post it here, only because I myself had never heard of the SAAC CEO option nor had I ever seen your CEO replica mentioned.  Hope you don't mind the linking...

You did a great job and you're not trying to tout your vehicle as a genuine SAAC build.  What I see and interpret from the article about your replica is you did it to build what the SAAC CEO would have been - and you have actually educated the public with what you did... where some never knew there was a potential offering of such a vehicle.  It was very interesting to read how you were able to get a genuine set of the F90's made for your replica; a unique wheel needed to make the replica complete and it seemed to have surprised even yourself that Simmons entertained your request and actually popped off a set.

The interior - how long did it take you to get the upholstery done to match the SAAC materials?  Was the finding of the Recaro seats and upholsterer in Malaysia just by chance, or did you have a POC there?

What was your biggest challenge when finally going through with the build?

Very well executed build and it's nice to see your transparency too about it being a replica.  Your attention to detail and the fact that you are transparent about the build definitely goes a long way and I'm sure the car garners a lot of attention when you have it out.

I know the SAAC engine hardware dressings were also hard to find, which is another unique aspect of your build.  About 10 years or so ago, there was someone on eBay that seemed to either have a connection or bought a pallet of NOS SAAC engine hardware dressings.  They were on there rather often and the prices (then) were still high, but IMO fair for the rarity.  I'm sure others on here know the reference since SAAC Fox parts don't come around often or as "plentiful" as they were at that time.  I also recall seeing some of the SAAC exterior emblems/decal sheets too, IIRC, offered by the same seller.

If the CEO was built by SAAC back then, would its price point have been within $10k of the "standard" SAAC Fox since it was to use a 93 Cobra as its base platform?

Do you have any other projects in the works?
#2
I don't recall seeing any discussion about this Fox SAAC offering, but apparently it existed back then... and someone has completed a replica of what it would have been if any were built.

https://puristmotorsports.com/stories/1993-cobra-saac-ceo-option-cobra-enhancement-option/

Has anyone else seen this and is the car still around?  Plenty of images in the above link and the owner was able to even get a set of the original F90 SAAC rims built by Simmons.
#3
Late to the topic, but better late than never!

Here is a complete YT vid from that show on the Fox SAAC cars being discussed.  The history on the black/gold SAAC is interesting and there is a single pic in the YT vid of it when it was originally "found".

https://youtu.be/q_y2eSWlhIU?si=tWQ9n8An5E6RBL8i

Enjoy
#4
Out of curiosity, did this MK1 go across the televised block, or was it just one "on site" that was bid on but not televised?  I tried to watch the live telecast, but unfortunately missed a great deal of it.

Did it sell?  I'm not a Mecum subscriber, so can't see auction results.
#5
1991-93 SAAC Mk1, Mk2 Mustang / Re: Mk1 Values
January 19, 2024, 03:14:09 AM
Quote from: Richstang on September 23, 2021, 12:18:55 PM
This is the only forum the caters to these specific 91-93 SAAC cars.
We lost a large amount of people and posts after the crash.
I'm not aware of any 87-93 Fox body specific website currently.


The SAAC Car Company was an official car manufacturer (Not an aftermarket addition). These are the rarest FOX cars built by an official manufacturer. They were EPA certified and compliant. MKI CX1 was the certification car federally approved. Only 62 SAAC cars were completed with 64 numbered over three years of production. (The two extra cars were never started and the VIN numbers are known).

MKI =36 units (1991 and 1992)
There were 36 MKI's completed over the two years;
This includes 30 production and 6 company PR cars (all were White with Blue stripes)

MKII = 15 units (1992 and 1993)
There were only 15 MKII's completed with the convertible added to the line-up. New colors were added (Red with White stripes, Black with Gold stripes, and White with Blue stripes were offered)
Only 12 convertibles were built along with 3 hatchbacks. This includes 1 red PR convertible.

Snake =11 units (1992 and 1993)
These were a lower featured base unit that could be optioned up to the MKI level.
Only 11 SAAC Snakes were completed, continuing with three paint colors available.
There were 4 convertible and 8 hatchbacks were built.



Compared to the next lowest production Fox model, there were 104 Cobra R models all built in 1993 and all built in red. As Fox Mustangs rise in value with age, the SAAC cars follow. All were cared for and most were put away for safe keeping. To date, only one has been found as previously used as daily driver. That is no longer the case. All the others have low mileage, typically less than 10,000 miles. Only a few have a few hundred miles or less. It is extremely difficult to put a value on these cars as only one or two come up for sale on a yearly basis. For that reason, prices are all over the map.

Hey Rich!

Long time.... I hope this post finds you well.

I was a contributor to the original 91-93 SAAC forum and we had some interesting topics if you recall... I just came across this site tonight and was reading through when I came upon your post, which intrigued me to register (only after I found I could no longer log in to this site).  Glad to see you're still online.

Anyhow, I saw your comment above about the original forum crash and since the 91-93 SAAC Fox history is extremely important, I wanted to post this below link for you and others.... Maybe there is a way to "bring back" what was lost from this link into this forum.  If the old info from the link can't be merged with the current, then maybe it could be a new thread or stickied somehow so it gets visibility for future readers or seekers of the data many of us compiled in the original 91-93 SAAC sub-forum.

Every post from the old 91-93 SAAC forum is readable in this link... so not all is totally lost.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150909133446/http://saacforum.com/index.php?board=75.0

I hope that is helpful and glad to "contribute" again.

You can still find me on Corral (where we also had some Fox SAAC discussions way back before the original SAAC subsection was on here), I'm on SVTP too, as well as many other Mustang sites.

As you said and I agree, there isn't much info specially dedicated to the 91-93 SAAC Mustangs.  Folks today don't even know what one was is, unless you're a true Mustang Enthusiast or a Fox Mustang owner from years past. 

Being in the hobby for over 30 years now, I've collected original Mustang brochures including some SAAC which I'll share some images here. I'm sure some 91-93 SAAC owners may have these, or have seen them on eBay time to time.  They're getting more rare as years pass and paper gets discarded by those who don't care.

The first attached image is a Dealership only double sided 8x11 card.

The second attached image is a full size fold out multi-page mailer brochure for those seeking to buy one of the MKI's. The original SAAC envelope is seen behind it and the small SAAC seal seen on the inside page of the brochure has never been broken.