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#1
I saw this car at auction in 2017 - Ian was a well known collector in AU, mainly into Jags but also have a collection of shelby's and boss's (one of each)

One interesting story of his - he purchased a D-type (one that had crashed in the Singapore GP) and was told that he would need to send the car back to the UK for repair. Instead, he started a classic restoration shop in Sydney and did the work himself, over his time he actually did resto's on a number of original ones. At the auction they also have one of two replicas he built (the theory was that he needed to tool up for the resto's anyway) for sale, that sold after the auction for around $US300k I think, must admit - the quality and workmanship on these was amazing, you would need to be an expert on them to tell it was not original

Anyway, the 65 was out of my league $ wise and I was there for something else - but for me, it was the first time I had seen a full set for sale (always struck me as odd that it was not moved to Canada for sale given its history)

Pic below of the 65,66 and 70 (and yes, it bugged me that they were not lined up in age order  :))

Link to the 2017 auction - you can see all the cars there - https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2017-shannons-melbourne-summer-classic-auction-featuring-the-ian-cummins-collect/#lot-ZCS97KI9MEACC29C





#2
Welcome Mark, practically neighbours  ;)
#3
Ask a Registrar / Re: current owner of 6s648
June 16, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: 427gt on June 16, 2022, 10:45:29 AM
I would like to know the current owner of 6s648. my uncle used to own it and asked if I could find out.

Be worth posting in the "Mustang Racing in Australia" facebook group (its pretty active, lots of historics - including Sc)

cheers
#4
1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 6S1276 joins the stable
December 05, 2021, 05:54:34 PM
Quote from: camp upshur on December 03, 2021, 09:45:19 PM

Congrats!
Q-will you be compelled to make it a right-hand drive?
I visited Roger Bell (and his 66 GT-350) in Perth some 40 years back and was marvelled by the regulations and conversion.

Was that the White/Blue 66? (I should know, only 3 in Perth), very well used Shelby and has driven across AU at least 3 times

If it is - from memory - two new 67s came in AU and as part of the deal three 66s were thrown in  - I think at least two of those were ex Hertz. All of them needed to be converted to RHD as that was what was required to get them registered here (thankfully, that rule has long gone for anything over 25yrs old - in some states you can even register a new LHD car, buts that hard to get, needs to be exceptional/rare etc)

Good to see another into AU though - becomes an expensive exercise with our taxes - don't get me started on the luxury car tax, basically a 33% tax on amounts over $US50k that was designed to protect our car industry (and that industry has gone, tax remains)

cheers

#5
Up For Auction / Re: 5R002 - Kissimmee - 2022
December 02, 2021, 06:00:55 PM
still one of the best photos ever of a Shelby
#6
Up For Auction / Re: #483 at Aussie auction
August 22, 2021, 08:10:15 PM
Quote from: GT350AUS on August 06, 2021, 06:04:38 AM
, RHD, OMG


Remember though, there was a time when they had to be converted to RHD to be registered here

Seem to remember one of the first shipments in was 2 x new 67's and 3 x used 66's into AU - all converted (one of the 66's was local to me, original AU owner and he had drive it across the country three times so patina was an understatement  ;) )
#7
I am sure you have thought of this - but contacting the previous owners listed in the registry may yield some results? (history, pics, docs)
#8
Quote from: George Schalk on July 07, 2021, 02:32:24 PM
That day may come again, possibly sooner than you think.  I would consider the Shelby market to be quite small for a couple reasons, a) the number of cars available, b) the limited number of buyers (baby boomers and Gen X'ers are primary buyers), c) and the small number of buyers who can actually afford to make a substantial purchase on an old car.  When this small group of buyers is gone one day, this collector car market will dwindle and anyone invested in a collector car may be willing to take whatever they can get for it. 

Agree x10 - I think the Shelby foodchain will spread even further - R's will always command top dollar given history/rarity but late driver 66's (like mine) will at best hold I reckon.

Looking at my own kids, they are into cars and are lucky to have a couple of what they consider classics (80/90's) - would love for them to takeover my cars one day but I am also very conscious that it could be a burden and I don't want them doing it just for sentimental reasons (especially if they are trying to buy a house etc, just too much money tied up when you are young)

To the OPs post, no harm in asking - for anyone that has sold a car online, sure you have had worse with "low ballers" and "tire kickers"

cheers
#9
1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 6S1134 On Its Way
April 15, 2021, 08:05:30 PM
looks fantastic, my long (very long) term plan is to take mine back to the original Ivy at some point
#10
Dan

Happy to help out (although I am west coast - Perth), you can get me on greg@aushelby.com

cheers

greg
#11
I agree with most, to me 65/66 is where it is at, no interest in the later ones

I had always planned to trade my 66 for a 65 when the opportunity arouse (simply put, the 65 started it all - the parent) - but when it came down to the $ I found it hard to justify from the perspective of what I would be doing in the car. I do look after my 66 and am careful where I park but I still get it out for a drive as often as I can (its a driver, not a show car)

I just could not see me doing that with a 65, too much stress etc - my solution was to enjoy the 66, have a 65R clone for track days and a poster of a 65 to dream about  :)

cheers

#12
1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Does Color Matter $$
June 22, 2020, 07:57:11 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on June 20, 2020, 11:13:49 AM
I thought more would respond, of course color matters... Everything matters in life. 4

Agree, also think its changed over time

Early days, ex rentals were seen as a 2nd choice (so painting the black cars was a thing) - then it went the other way (mine is originally an Ivy green, was painted to black/gold in the 80s by a previous owner), to now where originality is seen as the most important

If/when I do a full resto, will take it back to Ivy purely because it is rarer/original (although I do admit, I find the black/gold combo hard to beat)

#13
Indiana SAAC / Re: Non owners but enthusiasts
June 14, 2020, 07:39:01 PM
Note sure I fully understand your points, but my 2c

I have no issue with clones/tributes as long as everyone is honest with what it is (ie not trying to pass it off as the real deal)

I have both, prefer the clone for track/fun as its a lot less stressful  ;)

cheers

#14
1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 6S1698
April 14, 2020, 08:53:22 PM
In the old forum I posted the pic from the movie (in the "Shelby's in the movies thread" of the car catching fire) - and the actual owner of the H in the movie chipped in and explained that their real car was used for the normal shots and a quick/dirty clone was used for the fire shot.

I know you are after history the of that scene (in terms of "was is based on a true story")  - he is a member here (can't remember who sorry) but maybe he has some more of the back story given he was somewhat involved in the movie

cheers

greg
#15
trying with another article

edit - still uploading with reduced quality/size  >:(