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#1
Up For Auction / Re: March built 63 R code Galaxie on BAT
September 04, 2024, 12:09:05 AM
Just a reminder that the 63 1/2 Ford Galaxie and Falcon Sprint were introduced in Monaco, where the Falcons were entered in the Monte Carlo Rally.
#2
Good, another Shelby production written by a screen writer who doesn't know cars. Plus painting HFII as some megalomaniac when in fact he green lighted the program. How about Shelby punching out Leo Beebe again. What about Phil Remington, chief engineer? In the movie he was Phil, because it was on his jacket, and was Shelby's assistant. Yet Shelby said he was one of the driving forces behind the team success.

I'll pass.
#3
Car spotting addendum

Once again, spotting background cars can be as interesting as the main image imho.

In reply 181 photo, just to the right of the dude in the red jacket is a Mk 1 Cortina with a black trunk lid. Guess some custom paint accents were added.
#4
Where were the '68 and later 302s built and where were the '82 and later 5.0l built?
#5
1969-1970 Boss 302/429 / Re: Another missing mustang
November 26, 2023, 11:49:11 PM
believe the article was written by brock yates
#6
FWIW

reminds of the GT40 shots in the French film A Man and A Woman. The Man is a test driver and one of the cars he drives is a GT40. It was released in 1966. Don't know if this could be the same. Nevertheless the film has some of the best car-to-GT40 shots ever imho.

Ford France was a subsidiary before Ford of Europe was formed.

For the french language challenged, ecurie on the door is french for stable
#7
How about defining perfection as doing what the car was designed to do: win races and ultimately a championship.
#8
Not completely sure, but I have stayed in Holiday Inns.

Page layout is similar to Sports Car International formally published by Ross Periodicals.
#9
QuoteAs woke as Ford has become I'm surprised they just didn't buy out the Formula E series.

If that occurred, I guess that would mean they would use a Mustang Mach E safety car.
#10
Services Offered / Re: Final Update
September 25, 2022, 12:45:00 PM
File under its a small world after all (give or take a few decades):

I saw the Cobra when it was on display.

Purchase date of 2312 is my birthday. Who knew.
#11
I have no information on the magazine.

However you might be interested in reading about the Intermeccanica Torino/Italia and Frank Reisner, the man behind it, in Automobile Quarterly Vol. IX No. 3 (Spring 1971). Not only that but he was involved with the one-off 1965 Mustang station wagon and John Fitch's Phoenix.
#12
QuoteNot quite a list of FORD antendees, but...

I found a list of the FORD Board of directors in July 1965 with a photo

Good catch. It helps present a potential list of SA attendee suspects.

Plus an interesting source, the Walter P. Ruther Library. It illustrates looking around other tangential automotive collections because you never know what photo/scan/pr release/ newsletter that someone has archived. 

I still remain bemused that it seems, thus far, to appear that someone from Ford PR didn't cover the event showing Ford executives more closely since this was the Total Performance era that Ford was promoting full time.

#13
QuotePertersens' Archives has nothing for LAX such as the open house.
The Henry Ford Collection has some photos, but nothing was noted about who was there.
Revs Digital Library does not seem to cover the event either.
There is NO LIST of the Ford excutives who attended the open house on June 7th, 1965.
A few different books and magazines have some captions that note a few Ford Execs who were there.

Thanks for the FYI and it illustrates that historical research can be messy. I'm surprised at the lack of photos. SA was just down the 405 from Petersen and an editor could have received a free lunch to boot.


QuoteI suspect there are still some unturned stones to be discovered.   

I recently had lunch with the man who was the Petersen Museum archivist. Super nice guy, and loves automotive history. He previously worked for me at MT.

He told me that he and one assistant scanned something like 1.6 million images into the Museum's system.  But, about a year or two ago, the Museum decided that such a project is too expensive (his pay, and that of the assistant) and let them both go.

For now, the museum is calling that project done. There are still millions more images sitting in metal file drawers hoping to be scanned someday, maybe.

Never give up the search!

I am inclined to agree with Mr. Side-Oilers. Not surprised at the cost cutting plus in historical research discoveries are often found in the last place you look. In this case metal file drawers that no one yet has a clue what's there.
#14
Mr. Szabo:

Your investigation continues to be brilliant.

Two questions: Do we have a list of Ford executives that attended the press function?

Also have you searched the Petersen photo achives for images? I have to believe that an editor(s) from Hot Rod/Motor Trend/Sports Car Graphic was in attendance. Or not.

In addition, I enjoy looking for the everyday details, since like a historical excavation, these are details of daily SA jobs.

Quotei look for help for the last Pic to get a good timecode, or a higher resolution to read the Numbers
on the Windshield Papers, maybe someone here who reads and want to help can share someting

In that photo of unfinished GT350s, there's three rows there's 54 cars I can see in the photo, although it might be 76 (26x3).
And in a observation that's unlikely to mean anything, in the second row, the second car has Le Mans stripes unlike the other 75. Why was it parked there? Another lost detail of SA historical minutiae. 

#15
QuoteLooks like CS should've had a smarter CFO than he did. If it WAS $3-5 million in 1962 dollars he got, that should've been enough $$ in an efficient operation at the time (something equaling like $30-50million today... or more.)

This thread brings up trangential questions, such as SA/Ford contract details. Was SA supposed to make payments to Ford during the life of the loan or was there a balloon payment instead?

Mr. Side-Oilers post about CS salary is a good question. And he's right about having a more talented CFO.

Were 65-67 Shelby Mustangs sold at a profit? I.E. Did the sales price cover development costs?

One take away for me is that Shelby had the talent to form SA, but he didn't grasp a financial/business long term picture. Of course there were Ford demands and market place changes so maybe there was no long term SA future. And possibly working with Ford might have been a be careful what you wish for.