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The original Ford VIN and Shelby numbers on the aprons all match and are correct

Are you reporting that you saw all of them in person or something else? Often people interpret Howard's email or letter to mean something more that it states is the reason I'm asking. All Howard's typical boilerplate message states is that the numbers provided, typically no photos or other evidence is provided other than the printed numbers in the request, match the numbers he has on file.

Nothing more. Do have a copy of that email for this particular car on file.

Like others so sorry to hear this news. Out thoughts and prayers go out to his family in this time of need and support especially considering it is the holiday season

RIP

Agreed. If this is the bed liner or rock chip product applied to a clean undercarriage it was meant to be tough and hold up and will be difficult to remove without disturbing the finishes below. It's not undercoating

You cannot say that with 100% certainty. One (or more) car may have sat at the back of the lot until near the end of production. Doubtful but possible. As with all small manufacturers there is some leeway on how each car was assembled. Even a poll won't answer the question since we don't know the location of 100% of the cars - all it could do is get us the latest known example. If the latest known is under 1,500 it would bolster your statement if it's over 1,500 it would indicate later cars do exist with the hump.

If the car in question (a 66 late Shelby not a carry-over) were built I have not seen or heard of any of them being built with a 5R Ford VIN. Pretty sure that if there was one or more Howard would know it since they have all the Ford VINs and it would finding would have been written about or shared after all these decades. That would be a requirement if it were to have the early floor pan with the pass through depression in the floor.

If it were on a car VINed with 6R your example would need to have be

1- A 66 Mustang built at San Jose would have to have had a "left over" early style floor from 65 production ten or so months before that was discovered at the plant or the supplying stamping plant

2- That same car would have had to be chosen to be built into a K code using that floor but it would have more likely, just based on percentages, more likely it to have been installed in an A, C or T code

3- The floor would have also needed to by random chance be installed on a fastback body. Again much more likely, based on percentages of body types built, much more chance that it would end up installed on a coupe body

4- In addition that 66 body with the 65 floor would have had been chosen or designated as one being sold to convert to a 66 Shelby rather than a K code Mustangs fastback.

Guess it would be time to by a lottery ticket 

I'll leave it to someone else to figure out what the probabilities are of all those things working in a row.

Edited: Tried to clean up my poor wording. Not sure how much improvement took place 

Jeff, thank you for the link. I believe you have answered my question.
So in most, if not all cases a early 66 GT350 should have the hump.

Are you including the carry-over cars or are you referring to 66 Shelbys built from 1966 Mustang bodies. It makes all the difference

 

Cars produced at SJ after the startup of 66 production would have a transition point.

No the transition point had already passed. When you asked your first question you mistakenly included both 65 and 66 in the title when this was a straight IMO 1965 San Jose detail you were looking for,

And a very late 66 GT350 will not have the pass through hump.

1966 Mustangs would not have had anything but the floors without the "hump" as your calling it. So it doesn't matter early or late. Of course you can find "restored" and repaired cars out there that have had their floors replaced. Not long ago I looked at a 69 Shelby with an early 65 main floor with the "humps" for the E brake cable 

Joe thought I should up date a thread over on CMF where the subject came up in the past. Hope this information is helpful.

1965 San Jose E Brake Routing and Main Floor Relief Change

We can provide an approximate date range but since we don't know specifically when each car was completed at San Jose (unlike we have for 67 and up cars) we can't be two exact.

If we had the first four numbers of your cars sequential number (not all of it is needed) we should be able to help with that choice as long as its not during that fuzzy change over period identified.

If you want to give it a try you can PM with the four numbers and we can go from there.

A couple of pictures to illustrate

Only seen one unrestored 67 Mustang with an R for the engine code. Other details suggest that it was likely designated, at least from the start, as a car that was supposed to become a Stallion. Followed the car on and off for decades and since the car didn't have an engine in it when I saw it things like the exhaust manifolds could not be investigated. The car did not become a Stallion based on the original body panels and the lack of specific modifications done to the others so this might have been a car where the plan changed mid-stream like a couple of other cars I've owned or seen over the years.

Wrote and included a few pictures about the car in a very limited base newsletter I was providing back, I think, in the early 90's. Overall have seen many 427 claims though the years, some with "paper work" none of them held up to close evaluation. Sure you have seen or seen pictures of the 68 in Europe at one time with the new dash VIN tag with the W. 

Those are the two clips used to hold the washer hose to the unibody at the cowl to pinch weld in the engine compartment

Since the export brace got in the way of where they were typically installed on 66 Mustangs built at San Jose the workers positioned them differently on cars that would be Shelby's

Here are three pictures from either unrestored examples or from cars in 1966

These all are from sub 600 cars if that matters to anyone

For those that label and save things the cars number is 5S269 

It's on IMO the flatter side of semi-gloss

Take notice of the lack of or low reflection ability in these close ups of a original paint 66 while at the same time there is some









 

"We expect to publish a FOUR day event schedule, with off-track activities on August 21, 2025."

Timing seems a little tight?

Not really - the Cobra Experience will probably be on the docket. Beyond that the only thing to do is hit the wineries. You really don't want to visit the San Francisco area.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g32766-Activities-Napa_Napa_Valley_California.html

And those will be packed with all the vacationers  and groups of somewhat local ladies doing the bus/van tours. When out driving keeps your eyes open for both of those as well as those hard right turns they will make towards the next tasting room.

The castle is always popular and packed. Think you have to have reservations for that to get that tour.

 

I haven't been to one in 10 years, looks like this one would be good for my newly acquired '65  GT350.  And not too much of a tow, hopefully easy trailer parking.

Yep and IMO a great year to attend given its the 65's 60th  Would hope and expect to see a lot of 65's this year. Maybe they can get one of those large big pictures of all that attend taken. Those are so often very popular

No there are not others that will look original and there are new ones that look differently that are great as far as safety for the design.  Have you posted wanted requests on every related forum. Sometimes that works better than looking for ones for sale since many just put them away for another day or for trading material for something they need.

If its important to you knowing which original brand your looking for might help or make the search more difficult

Good luck