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1967 cars with factory A/C

Started by Road Reptile, May 28, 2024, 05:23:43 PM

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Road Reptile

Hi 67 Owners
Looking for cars with a bracket from battery to fender apron "Z" shaped Ford part # is
10A705 Thanks!!!
R.R.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Road Reptile on May 28, 2024, 05:23:43 PMHi 67 Owners
Looking for cars with a bracket from battery to fender apron "Z" shaped Ford part # is
10A705 Thanks!!!
R.R.
Your title compels me to ask if you think that the battery hold down bracket is relevant only to a A/C car? 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Road Reptile

Hi again 67 fans,
This small bracket seems to be on cars with A/C and as we know they also have a H.D.
Battery. This may have been added to eliminate the "shake" that occurs when the added load from the compressor attempts to slow the engine down. We also know that the A/C
belt tensioner was redesigned to prevent belt vibration. Seems most cars lack this small
bracket and really should have have one. Batteries are expensive and will crack with the
added vibration without "Z" bracket in place, acid damage is no fun to clean up. Seems that only cars built after Feb 67 have either option so the number of cars will likely be small
R.R.

J_Speegle

Quote from: Road Reptile on May 28, 2024, 09:06:14 PMHi again 67 fans,
This small bracket seems to be on cars with A/C and as we know they also have a H.D.
Battery. This may have been added to eliminate the "shake" that occurs when the added load from the compressor attempts to slow the engine down. We also know that the A/C


There are many Mustangs also built with the support bracket

Would have to check if my spread sheet has examples (Shelby and Mustangs) before you Feb 67 date.

Also additional time would be needed to see if their Marti reports (of the Mustangs with the brackets originally) have the HD battery or not.

Lots more examples and data points if you don't limit the collection to just Shelbys and possibly also other plants
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

Bob Gaines

#4
Quote from: Road Reptile on May 28, 2024, 09:06:14 PMHi again 67 fans,
This small bracket seems to be on cars with A/C and as we know they also have a H.D.
Battery. This may have been added to eliminate the "shake" that occurs when the added load from the compressor attempts to slow the engine down. We also know that the A/C
belt tensioner was redesigned to prevent belt vibration. Seems most cars lack this small
bracket and really should have have one. Batteries are expensive and will crack with the
added vibration without "Z" bracket in place, acid damage is no fun to clean up. Seems that only cars built after Feb 67 have either option so the number of cars will likely be small
R.R.
There are a multitude of cars out there without AC that have the bracket. There are also cars that have heavy duty battery but no bracket  . Not all A/C cars have the bracket or a hole to suggest they ever did. Consequently it doesn't seem prudent to suggest that they are related. What you can say for sure is if the car had a hole in the apron or fender then that meant it had the bracket when it left the assemblyline. Any other assumptions are still only speculation at this point. If cracked batteries were a big issue there would be historical documentation like a TSB to correct that issue which there is not that I am aware of.  It wouldn't hurt to modify your car if it made you feel better to have the bracket but given the multitude of cars that don't it doesn't appear essential to have it ether.Of course if there is a empty hole in the apron where the bracket should be then a bracket was there in the past and is now missing.I think NPD still carries a good reproduction of the bracket.

Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Road Reptile

Hi again,
Thanks to Bob and Jeff. This small part is listed as a C9ZZ-10A705-A  did not go any further back and the notes in the MPC do not give any details. My thoughts are much like Bob's If you have the hole in the apron it most likley had a bracket. It must have been
used in 67 then later changed up to a 69 part number. Doubt it is worth doing a survey
over, but nice to know others notice small details.
Thanks again for the shared knowledge!!
R.R.

Bob Gaines

#6
Quote from: Road Reptile on May 31, 2024, 10:08:49 AMHi again,
Thanks to Bob and Jeff. This small part is listed as a C9ZZ-10A705-A  did not go any further back and the notes in the MPC do not give any details. My thoughts are much like Bob's If you have the hole in the apron it most likley had a bracket. It must have been
used in 67 then later changed up to a 69 part number. Doubt it is worth doing a survey
over, but nice to know others notice small details.
Thanks again for the shared knowledge!!
R.R.
R.R. to continue with more friendly shared knowledge you should know that the 69 C9ZZ-A bracket is not the same as the 67 bracket. The 69 bracket is a completely different shape. A nice repro of the 69 bracket is also sold by NPD. There is also a 1971-73 bracket that is different yet still.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby


Road Reptile

Hi,
Thanks J.D. for the pics and links !! please note the 1967 part number for the "Z"
bracket is C7ZZ-10753-A
R.R.