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Factory sunroof ordered by Shelby in 1969 ???

Started by Chris Thauberger, December 08, 2024, 12:11:13 PM

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Lincoln tech

Quote from: silverton_ford on December 09, 2024, 07:49:10 PMThe car is currently apart of the Brothers Collection.  I saw it yesterday.

More information on the car.

That gentleman seems to be a bit confused as to whether it is factory or not   :)
PNDM === Post Numbers Don't Matter :)

Special Ed

#31
I had a 1968 ford sunroof manual that explains the whole sunroof program and it was an orange covered book and i gave it to george H  as he and hank bought out the remaining sunroof inventory but it was mainly later model parts. A hand crank came with the older sunroofs to use if needed

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: Lincoln tech on December 10, 2024, 12:17:30 PMThat gentleman seems to be a bit confused as to whether it is factory or not   :)
He also avoided the word Shelby......
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

propayne

Again, just to add a little color to the discussion - here is a scan of my copy of the 1968 Cougar sunroof service brochure.

It is 24 pages not including cover.

- Phillip
President, Delmarva Cougar Club - Brand Manager, Cougar Club of America

propayne

#34
It also gives you an idea of the dimensions of the first Cougar factory sunroof openings.

In some of the Mustang pics they seem different.

- Phillip
President, Delmarva Cougar Club - Brand Manager, Cougar Club of America

98SVT - was 06GT

The Cougar parts look made to order for the specific application and ease of assembly line production. The Mustangs have that pieced together aftermarket we don't care how long it takes your dealer to install it appearance.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

J_Speegle

#36
Quote from: Lincoln tech on December 10, 2024, 12:17:30 PMThat gentleman seems to be a bit confused as to whether it is factory or not   :)

Well it very likely installed by "the" factory. Just not the factory ( a Ford one) it comes across as  ::)

Did go through the pictures of Mustangs I have with sun roofs. A couple with the ASC type and a couple with the cloth/vinyl design. Non of the 67 plus models had it listed on the Marti report - No surprise there. Have one 65 with it listed on a window sticker but the font looks different than seen on other examples and of course can't be sure its an original copy or home made. Just a picture never saw the car or paperwork in person.
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

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shelbymann1970

Has anyone brought up the subject of panel fitment? Is the contour of a 68 Cougar the SAME as a Mustang fastback or coupe? How is the fitment on a Mustang of the roof panels?
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

tesgt350

Quote from: J_Speegle on December 10, 2024, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: Lincoln tech on December 10, 2024, 12:17:30 PMThat gentleman seems to be a bit confused as to whether it is factory or not   :)

Well it very likely installed by "the" factory. Just not the factory ( a Ford one) it comes across as  ::)

Did go through the pictures of Mustangs I have with sun roofs. A couple with the ASC type and a couple with the cloth/vinyl design. Non of the 67 plus models had it listed on the Marti report - No surprise there. Have one 65 with it listed on a window sticker but the font looks different than seen on other examples and of course can't be sure its an original copy or home made. Just a picture never saw the car or paperwork in person.

On one of my Computers I have a Photo of a Dark Colored 65-66 Mustang Coupe with a Metal style Sunroof on the Track and it has a large CS Logo and the word SHELBY on the Rear Quarter Panel.  I will try to find it and Post it.

propayne

#40
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on December 11, 2024, 07:50:54 AMHas anyone brought up the subject of panel fitment? Is the contour of a 68 Cougar the SAME as a Mustang fastback or coupe? How is the fitment on a Mustang of the roof panels?

I would say no, the contours aren't the same. It is important, because if the contour is altered on a Cougar, then the sunroof panel won't slide back into the roof properly.

When my G was with a previous owner, someone at the shop where it was being painted stepped on the sunroof panel when it was out of the car. They could not get it to open fully after that.

This owner then bought another sunroof Cougar just to get the sunroof parts. The panel from that Cougar worked perfectly in the G, so that goes to show you how consistent they were in locating the sunroofs in the same spot on every Cougar equipped with them.

- Phillip
President, Delmarva Cougar Club - Brand Manager, Cougar Club of America

Special Ed

A mustang coupe maybe same as a cougar BUT not a fastback as in 69-70 fastback the windshield is shorter and the roofline sloped back ward and the seat platforms are fastback only in 69-70 anyway and side glass is shorter also.

SFM6S

A local Mustang salvage yard/repair shop had a Cougar with a factory sunroof in it in the mid 1990's.
After about three years of constant hounding by a local Mustang owner it was cut out and installed on the coupe. I saw it a couple times at local shows and it functioned and fit perfectly.

tesgt350


J_Speegle

Quote from: tesgt350 on December 11, 2024, 07:52:31 PMLooks like a Sunroof Outline.

Recall t\hat picture though the whole sunroof on a race car doesn't make sense - IE additional weight. Maybe started with someones left overs that didn't work out.  Nothing to connect it with "factory" installed or added at this point

BTW does anyone else think it looks like the side graphics were Photo Shopped on to the picture? Especially the CS since it appears to extend above the edge of the quarter panel and little to no curve in the number or GT350 as they go over the body lines.  ::)
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge