Classic car batteries

[98SVT - was 06GT]

The problem is that the Miata battery in a group 24 case has limited cranking ability .....This is OK for a show car.

+1 - put an Optima in it if it's a driver.

[FL SAAC]

I friend of mine has a 27 series in his mustang. He bought this battery kit on ebay. Brings a topper, stickers and caps.

Put it on an aftermarket battery with all the provided topper and decals.

Looks pretty good for 25-30 bucks

[Bob Gaines]

I friend of mine has a 27 series in his mustang. He bought this battery kit on ebay. Brings a topper, stickers and caps.

Put it on an aftermarket battery with all the provided topper and decals.

Looks pretty good for 25-30 bucks

I friend of mine has a 27 series in his mustang. He bought this battery kit on ebay. Brings a topper, stickers and caps.

Put it on an aftermarket battery with all the provided topper and decals.

Looks pretty good for 25-30 bucks

I would add that the aftermarket donor battery to be used with the eBay kit  has to be completely flat with no raised lettering made into it on top. Batteries with the raised letters would have to be sanded off. Batteries with the sunk down letters would have to be filled. Another consideration is the need for the evenly space flat vented holes for the push on vent caps.

[s2ms]

Was able to open my dead battery case without any trouble from the top. Battery inside is solidly epoxy'd to the bottom so might be tough to get it out without butchering the bottom.

Only sticker I can see says it's made by EnerSys, Inc., no other useful info. Looks like they make Odyessy batteries so assume that's what it is. On a side note Odyssey does have a 24F that has the side tangs to mount on a 65-66 tray.

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[Bob Gaines]

Was able to open my dead battery case without any trouble from the top. Battery inside is solidly epoxy'd to the bottom so might be tough to get it out without butchering the bottom.

Only sticker I can see says it's made by EnerSys, Inc., no other useful info. Looks like they make Odyessy batteries so assume that's what it is. On a side note Odyssey does have a 24F that has the side tangs to mount on a 65-66 tray.

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I would plan on cutting out the bottom. Don't cut from the side like you did the top but the cut the inside perimeter. That is how I do it. I turn it over and  measuring the thickness  I cut so as to miss the side walls and only cut into the inside perimeter. By cutting on the inside perimeter you will not lose any height. That way you have the option of ether fixing the bottom cut out with a comparable thickness material or leave it cut out.  I am doubtful the cutout will remain intact to reuse once you try and separate it from the epoxy and battery. 

[gt350shelb]

agm batteries do not live long if over charged ..  most new  fords have agm batterys .  they can be recovered if they are dead but it must be a long slow 1 amp charge rate . if they get hot they dry out and then are trash . if you leave them connected and  the clock kills them while they sit in garage they  might only recover 2 times
we have 24 f motorcraft lead acid batterys in both shelbys and one lasted over 10 years in the 65 .

[FL SAAC]

Guys your over thinking and complicating this.

Its seems that the reproduction battery is not currently available by all the comments made.

So I guess it is safe to say "its extinct"

Like many early Shelby parts nowadays.

I would not cut here, I would not cut there (sounding like Doctor Seuss) I would buy a very inexpensive decal and topper kit.

And wala you have a 1960s (kinda sorta) looking battery that will make 98% of the people smile and say :

"did you see that Ethyl, it has the original battery just like our old Ford had"

Or wait until they start remaking the repro AUTOLITE battery again for only $1 gazillion dollars a pop.

I would buy the topper and super glue it or attach it with cadnium or phosphate plated (what evers correct for your year) screws.

In the end your repro hoses will not have the original 1960s coolant.

Your rebuilt motor won't have the original 1960s SAE motor oil.

Your repro tires will not have the original mixture of different gases but mostly  78 percent nitrogen and 21 percent oxygen that we call AIR in them.

Guys keep smiling, drive your cars and enjoy your weekend.

[tesgt350]

When does the Battery get Judged?  When it goes through Tech to get put in the right Judging Class or when it is Parked in its assigned Spot and after the Owner Details the Car for Judging? If it is after the Owner Details the Car for Judging, then why does it matter, just shine up the Dead F24/F27 Battery and swap it out at the Show?  I have seen many people do that.

[shelbymann1970]

OK what about using an aftermarket battery when being judged to show everything works then a factory battery put in? Is that acceptable?

[shelbymann1970]

I buy Costco and my friend has bought Rural King batteries for our cars. A few years ago they "had" 3 group 27s in stock at RK for 70 bucks. The guy pulled down 3 pallets and couldn't find it. I think I paid 92 at Costco. My friend is still running his RK group 27 in his 70 Gt500 vert with no issues.

[Bill]

Has anyone had any luck with finding a classic car battery lately?  Battery Central Mall was supposed to be making them, but I can't get anyone to return my calls for availability. And how good are the replacement looking AGM batteries?  Or does anyone have a good suggestion as to what to do or buy?  Vehicle is a 69 GT500.

Here is an earlier thread on the Battery Central Mall units:

https://www.saac.com/forum/index.php?topic=11829.0

Would love to see some updates from those end users.


Bill

[FL SAAC]

Good lawd !

After seeing numerous reviews in these retro batteries, it looks like the world has a lot of masochistic people...YIKES!

the battery does not even come with the correctly painted script, you have to do it.

My Costco battery return when you want no questions asked is lookin better and better everyday.  Cant wait to apply my sticker and topper kit....winner !

And now to the horror stories, the tears of shame

I really like the way that the batteries look, but they do not seem to be able to maintain longer term reliability.

I plan to continue to use the standard battery on a daily basis.

I will swap the modern battery out for the restoration battery for car shows.

A new restoration battery now takes 4-5 months to get after you order one, and at over $400 shipped, they can keep it.

They  has been promising the 27's will be here any time now for the last 3 years

Nice! So pigs will fly first. I guess they have no problem taking the money and running.

Good luck... terrible Customer Service and Warranty support. I had trouble with one battery from them, AFTER I had brought four of them....NO HELP AT ALL!!!
I wouldn't buy anything from them any more!

PS : check the CCA's....not enough for a big block 

BEWARE of new look a like AGM batteries

I looked them up on Google today and found stories eerily similar to mine as well.

Make sure you post this info everywhere you can to get the word out, Hopefully it will stop others from getting ripped off.

They have $390 of my money I have no battery, and they are ignoring me going on for about a month and a half now.

 Highly recommended to not purchase a battery from xxx or xxx

I have still not received the battery. I have sent a couple follow up emails with no response. The last correspondence I've received was on May 18. At this point I've spent so much time on it, I almost just want to give up.

I'm glad this was brought to the attention of our group.

I bought one years ago from the previous xxx and was very satisfied.

 But it looks like they've changed ownership and/or are being made somewhere else and the quality just isn't there anymore.

Was gonna buy another one but "ain't no way now".

No new updates: I have yet to receive correspondence since May 2023 when I was told I'd be receiving a battery

[Bob Gaines]

When does the Battery get Judged?  When it goes through Tech to get put in the right Judging Class or when it is Parked in its assigned Spot and after the Owner Details the Car for Judging? If it is after the Owner Details the Car for Judging, then why does it matter, just shine up the Dead F24/F27 Battery and swap it out at the Show?  I have seen many people do that.

The battery typically gets judged on the show field when judging for that car begins.Many entrants switch out the battery when the car gets to its judging spot.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

agm batteries do not live long if over charged ..  most new  fords have agm batterys . 

Use the right charger or you'll kill it.

AGM batteries have special charging needs. Some battery chargers offer an AGM or Absorbed setting to meet those special charging requirements.

An AGM-compatible battery charger sends more amps into a lead-acid battery while keeping the voltage less than 14-15 volts. AGM chargers go through the three charging phases (bulk, absorption and float) just like a regular charger. However, a regular charger could exceed 17 volts when charging a battery.

AGM batteries can absorb more current than a regular car battery, which is why they can recharge faster. It takes time to charge regular batteries. They need slow, low-amp charging to prevent overheating — and they need more volts to push through their internal resistance.

AGM batteries don't have nearly as much internal resistance, which is how they absorb 30, 40, even 50 amps at a time instead of a regular battery getting stressed out at more than 10 amps.

[shelbymann1970]

When does the Battery get Judged?  When it goes through Tech to get put in the right Judging Class or when it is Parked in its assigned Spot and after the Owner Details the Car for Judging? If it is after the Owner Details the Car for Judging, then why does it matter, just shine up the Dead F24/F27 Battery and swap it out at the Show?  I have seen many people do that.

The battery typically gets judged on the show field when judging for that car begins.Many entrants switch out the battery when the car gets to its judging spot.

Thanks. That is exactly what was done with my friend's B9 at French Lick(survivor gold).