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Correct header finish

Started by 6T6SHELBY, June 27, 2018, 02:21:45 PM

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6T6SHELBY

How do you tell the difference between original and repo headers. Also what is the proper finish they should have.

Thanks!!!!

Bob Gaines

Quote from: 6T6SHELBY on June 27, 2018, 02:21:45 PM
How do you tell the difference between original and repo headers. Also what is the proper finish they should have.

Thanks!!!!
The differance in the shape of the flange , the opening and how it is welded. They were painted black from the factory. That is what comes to mind . I will others fill in the blanks. I'm typing on phone keyboard.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

kingchief

Photos are always good!

Thanks,

Steve
SFM 6S406

gt350hr

  IMHO "only" , few originals exist today unless they have been off of the car for many years like my originals. Off for 43 years. At last count 30+ companies have remade them  Few (only one I can think of ) is good enough to be considered as correct as an original. Others "look" the same at the initial glance but as Bob mentioned , flanges ( at the head) + collector flanges and their clocking , tubing weld joints and many other things are different. Some do not fit without "persuasion" from a ball peen hammer.The headers were "mass produced" in batches by Cyclone Automotive back in the day and there are some  minor variations from batch to batch but are still easy to spot against a reproduction except for the one I alluded to. Black VHT header paint ( which had a semi gloss to it) was used "back in the day". IF the pipe got to hot , the paint would change color to a chalky white color right off of the head flange and fade back to black where less heat was present.
      Randy

    Other opinions are welcomed.
Celebrating 46 years of drag racing 6S477 and no end in sight.

J_Speegle

Quote from: kingchief on June 27, 2018, 03:26:18 PM
Photos are always good!

Here are a few to assist with the discussion. Labeled each so discussing/referencing a particular one is easier ;)

Header #1



Header #2



Header #3



Header #4



Header #5



Header #6
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

kingchief

Thanks Jeff for the swell photos.

Steve
SFM 6S406

gt350hr

  Study Jeff's killer pictures carefully. Mass quantity hand fabricated parts have certain "nuances" often over looked by replicators. The original Cyclone tubes were swedged to a rectangular form on a forming machine , not by hand which would have slowed down production and caused fitment irregularities as well. The cuts were done in a jig as well. "Production"parts must be consistent or they don't fit the weldment jigs . If the headers vary , they don't fit the cars. The forming , welding , bolt clearance work is almost like a fingerprint. A guy who built them back then could ID his work from a co worker's , they were that good.
   Randy
Celebrating 46 years of drag racing 6S477 and no end in sight.