Looking for info. on 0F03R481669

[427hunter]

Easy solution post the ford inner fender vins - if you don't have the factory vins - you don't have anyway to prove the car is real.

[5566]

Jeff,

Thanks for the pic.  Now that I see that, I recall hearing about it, though I'd never seen it before.  I'll also admit I was thinking  about newer vehicles, with numerous hidden VINs/derivatives, as opposed to older ones, when I made my comment. Thanks again for the info!

[J_Speegle]

Jeff,

Thanks for the pic.  Now that I see that, I recall hearing about it, though I'd never seen it before.  I'll also admit I was thinking  about newer vehicles, with numerous hidden VINs/derivatives, as opposed to older ones, when I made my comment. Thanks again for the info!

Yes unfortunate case. Car was suppose to be a loaded K code GT convertible and  that started the discussion and process down the rabbit hole  

[Ldouble619]

This is the car we are discussing?

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=12661.0

[Coralsnake]

That's the car.

The owner is just now realizing why he got such a "good deal"

[427hunter]

That's the car.

The owner is just now realizing why he got such a "good deal"

As usual you are 100% correct! There really are not "deals" on good Shelby's - "A deal" on a Shelby usually means the car has a lot wrong with it and needs restoration - "A good deal" usually means it's a fake 

[5566]

Old news, but the DA says they are "mostly original cars" (I believe referring to the cars as a group, not one specific car) to be auctioned:

https://www.newson6.com/story/5e345de93196993fcfd0567a/pottawatomie-county-auctions-off-classic-mustangs

And the county sheriff files for an emergency induction, which is denied after a three hour hearing, to prevent the auction, in order to "allow time to investigate whether the cloned Vehicle Identification Numbers had been properly removed as claimed"

https://www.news-star.com/story/news/courts/2020/02/07/injunction-denied-auction-of-five-tributecloned-ford-mustangs-to-proceed-feb-8-in-shawnee/111783792/

Really strange.......

[J_Speegle]

Old news, but the DA says they are "mostly original cars" (I believe referring to the cars as a group, not one specific car) to be auctioned:

Not sure if a DA in Pottawatomie County is qualified to testify as to what a "mostly original car" would be    Sure he meant well

[5566]

From his statement in the article, I think what the DA meant was they were mostly "real" cars as opposed to clones or fakes. 

This is interesting in that seized cars that are auctioned off usually don't bring a lot of money.  Sometimes the agency auctioning them off barely breaks even between what they make and what it costs to auction them.  These are different.  The DA's office, as well as whatever LE agencies were involved, most likely made a decent amount of money, even more if the cars were real. 

Unfortunately, it's quite possible that a real car could end up with a state issued VIN, and the decrease in value that comes with it.  In some states, once a VIN plate is removed, the law requires a state issued VIN be affixed, regardless of the authenticity of the vehicle.  I haven't been able to find that stated in Oklahoma law, though what I have found seems to lead in that direction. 

Whew, talk about going down the rabbit hole! 

[Survivor]

Circling back on this.  The 2013 Registry notes the then known owner and his whereabouts.  Perhaps the Registrar could chime in and if known, share any current information/updates so that we put this matter to rest in advance of the new Registry and w/o the need for an exhaustive and likely unproductive investigation with the Ok authorities. 

[Bob Gaines]

Circling back on this.  The 2013 Registry notes the then known owner and his whereabouts. Perhaps the Registrar could chime in and if known, share any current information/updates so that we]put this matter to rest  in advance of the new Registry and w/o the need for an exhaustive and likely unproductive investigation with the Ok authorities.

It would probably be prudent if "we" contact the 69/70 registrar instead of the other way around. He may not have seen this post. They stand by to help but given that they volunteer their service.  It is a little presumptuous to expect that the particular registrar to watch every single post on this forum on the off chance that someone might need their assistance in some capacity .

[5566]

https://oklahoman.com/article/5653835/plans-to-auction-off-counterfeit-mustangs-creates-furor

[1970cougar]

Does any one known when the new 1969/1970 book is coming out? thanks matt

[Coralsnake]

2022 is a good guess

[1970cougar]

Thank you