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65 GT350 Proportioning Valve

Started by mygt350, May 30, 2020, 02:15:15 PM

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mygt350

On the outside of a 65 K/H Proportioning Valve, there is a machined groove which has a rubber grommet in it. What function does the rubber have?
Martin
Continuous caretaker of 5S228 since May 1967

J_Speegle

#1
Covers a hole in the machined surface that works as a bleeder/vent from the spring chamber on the bottom of the housing. The rubber band/gasket works as sort of a cheap one way valve design

Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

mygt350

Jeff
If the rubber band/gasket is really old and clearly cracked, assuming brake fluid would come out?
Thanks!
Continuous caretaker of 5S228 since May 1967

6s1640

#3
Hi Martin, looking at the drawing Jeff posted,  no on brake fluid leaking out. The brake fluid will only leak if other seals have failed.

Take care

Cory

mygt350

Will send it up to Jim C to waive his magic wand over.

Thanks
Continuous caretaker of 5S228 since May 1967

mygt350

Am I correct that the proportioning valve only affects pressure to the rear drum brakes and has no effect on front calipers?
Continuous caretaker of 5S228 since May 1967

J_Speegle

Quote from: mygt350 on May 30, 2020, 10:38:03 PM
Am I correct that the proportioning valve only affects pressure to the rear drum brakes and has no effect on front calipers?

Correct just like other years
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

acman63

Ive pulled apart many 65/66 GT350s that the rear metallic shoes had virtually no wear  so most bias on the from t brakes
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s2ms

Quote from: acman63 on May 31, 2020, 11:21:31 AM
Ive pulled apart many 65/66 GT350s that the rear metallic shoes had virtually no wear  so most bias on the from t brakes

Maybe that explains why 6S1757 still has the original drums, even with all the racing in the 70's. Had them turned when I did the brakes in the early 90's and there was still plenty left to turn again.
Dave - 6S1757

Helmantel

Quote from: acman63 on May 31, 2020, 11:21:31 AM
Ive pulled apart many 65/66 GT350s that the rear metallic shoes had virtually no wear  so most bias on the from t brakes

And yet they needed cooling in 1966 ;)

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Helmantel on July 04, 2020, 02:50:00 PM
Quote from: acman63 on May 31, 2020, 11:21:31 AM
Ive pulled apart many 65/66 GT350s that the rear metallic shoes had virtually no wear  so most bias on the from t brakes

And yet they needed cooling in 1966 ;)
Not really . If you think that the 66 scoops cooled anything I think you need to take a closer look . The air blows on the tires not the brakes . It was cosmetic ;)
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Helmantel

I know. I had to laugh the first time I looked at a 66 Shelby and noticed the "tire coolers"




gt350hr

  The valves were set to work with "hot" brakes. If you set the valve to make the brakes effective when cold , they will lock up FOR SURE if run at a competitive event where they see heat. "Street driving " is not enough.
   In drag racing , I ride the brakes when smoking the tires before the starting line. The holding power on the starting line is far better with the rear brakes heated and stopping at the end in great too.
Celebrating 46 years of drag racing 6S477 and no end in sight.

shelbydoug

Quote from: gt350hr on July 08, 2020, 05:19:29 PM
  The valves were set to work with "hot" brakes. If you set the valve to make the brakes effective when cold , they will lock up FOR SURE if run at a competitive event where they see heat. "Street driving " is not enough.
   In drag racing , I ride the brakes when smoking the tires before the starting line. The holding power on the starting line is far better with the rear brakes heated and stopping at the end in great too.

Aren't the valves overkill on the street then? They should be R model only then?

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Royce Peterson

No, they were used on every Mustang. Not Shelby installed or specific. Totally needed on any disc brake equipped car of any make or model if you have a disc / drum combination.

Quote from: shelbydoug on July 09, 2020, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: gt350hr on July 08, 2020, 05:19:29 PM
  The valves were set to work with "hot" brakes. If you set the valve to make the brakes effective when cold , they will lock up FOR SURE if run at a competitive event where they see heat. "Street driving " is not enough.
   In drag racing , I ride the brakes when smoking the tires before the starting line. The holding power on the starting line is far better with the rear brakes heated and stopping at the end in great too.

Aren't the valves overkill on the street then? They should be R model only then?
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