Looking for a little help regarding brakes

[Royce Peterson]

Make sure the bleeder screws on the calipers face to the rear. Classic mistake is to swap the calipers left - right which results in the bleeders pointing up and gives a space for trapped air.

The other classic mistake is not adjusting the rear shoes properly. They need to be tight enough that they drag slightly when the wheel is rotated after the first application.

As mentioned you seem to have a drum brake distribution block. Isn't the proportioning valve and residual valve contained in the MC in 71? Asking because I don't know.

Hello Pete
Hopefully the caliper photo and engine eye candy are below - using smart phone vs laptop

[nvr-enuf]

Hello everyone - thanks for the reply. 
I can confirm the bleeders in the front calipers are pointed up and towards the rear of the car (correct for bleeding from my understanding)
While the car has front disks, very well could have been a drum brake car - when I researched the car did start out as a 302 car but no knowledge or confirmation on original car brake set up.
New master will arrive today, this was ordered as a front disk brake car, it could be my current master is bypassing and / or the master is meant for a drum brake car
Distribution block - Thanks for confirming a front drum brake car, after installing the new master, I will see how the brakes are.  If still poor, I will look into the correct dist block for a disk brake car.
Thanks everyone

[Dan353]

Your going to need a proportioning valve also to balance the front and rear.  Discs use a different amount of fluid compare to drum brakes.  You can try Mac's for a stock parts or you can use an adjustable proportion valve from an after market brake supplier like Bear brakes

Dan

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[The Going Thing]

Ford didn't use a proportioning valve either.
They use a residual valve. It holds 3 psi to the rear drums.
NPD offers residual valves. Even aftermarket in 3 psi and 10 psi for rear disc. If you can do a double flair you can do this yourself.

[Dan353]

Well if your going to be like that. why does the 1969 shop manual call it a proportioning valve?  maybe on the earlier years they used a residual valve but clearly in 1969 they used a proportioning valve. See photo's taken of 1969 shop manual for Cougar and Mustang.

[Bob Gaines]

Well if your going to be like that. why does the 1969 shop manual call it a proportioning valve?  maybe on the earlier years they used a residual valve but clearly in 1969 they used a proportioning valve. See photo's taken of 1969 shop manual for Cougar and Mustang.

It was referred to as a proportioning valve in 65/66 too. The 67 unit was virtually identical (enough difference to warrant a different engineering number)to the 68-70 proportioning valve .

[The Going Thing]

It's also called a residual valve by Ford. It does not function as a traditional proportioning valve as it doesn't control brake bias front to rear.  I though it was a proportioning as well.
Until I found out what it did.

[Royce Peterson]

They need to be pointed to the rear, not up. If they are pointed up that's the problem.

Hello everyone - thanks for the reply. 
I can confirm the bleeders in the front calipers are pointed up and towards the rear of the car (correct for bleeding from my understanding)
While the car has front disks, very well could have been a drum brake car - when I researched the car did start out as a 302 car but no knowledge or confirmation on original car brake set up.
New master will arrive today, this was ordered as a front disk brake car, it could be my current master is bypassing and / or the master is meant for a drum brake car
Distribution block - Thanks for confirming a front drum brake car, after installing the new master, I will see how the brakes are.  If still poor, I will look into the correct dist block for a disk brake car.
Thanks everyone

[Dan353]

Found this distribution block and proportioning valve (residual valve) all in one. From NPD  their part number is 2B091-20AA says it fits 1964-1971 FAIRLANE FAIRLANE, TORINO, 70 1/2 FALCON.

[The Going Thing]

That one is complete.  You may have to change the line fittings. They are different with drum-disc cars.

[cj750]

Hello everyone - thanks for the reply. 
I can confirm the bleeders in the front calipers are pointed up and towards the rear of the car (correct for bleeding from my understanding)

As Royce noted, they should not be pointed up. Has this been addressed, and what was the result?

[Dan353]

It seems what is called a proportioning valve might do both proportioning and act as a residual valve.   Check out this video  yes I know he's talking about mopars but he does Ford brake parts too

https://youtu.be/qzUk8W1-2pw

[Royce Peterson]

Not possible because residual valves are for disc brakes. A residual valve will be in both the front and rear master cylinder ports if a car has four wheel disc brakes. Residual valves are not used with drum brakes so it's really clear cut.

A proportioning valve - as Ford always calls it - is used in the rear drum brake circuit on Shelbys and Mustangs. A Proportioning valve restricts flow towards the rear drum so it does not lock up. It allows unrestricted flow back to the master cylinder, so it would not maintain any residual pressure whatsoever.

Never owned or worked on any Mopars. But I often read Mopar Action because I truly love the writings of Richard Ehrenburg (SAE).

It seems what is called a proportioning valve might do both proportioning and act as a residual valve.   Check out this video  yes I know he's talking about mopars but he does Ford brake parts too

https://youtu.be/qzUk8W1-2pw

[Dan353]

  I'm no expert so educate me.  How about posting some references,articles,videos etc... so that I may get a better understanding

Dan

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