ENOUGH! Bill Kolb Jr recommended KR, SHELBY flat out lied! Does the truth matter

[Greg]

^^+1 Steve^^

I hope the next thing, in our politically-correct & humorless society, isn't to want to desecrate CS because of his often colorful language and down-home sayings. 

The order he gave me (when I was his personal PR man at the '91 Indy 500) about how clean he wanted the Viper Pace Car still makes me laugh:

"I want that car as shiny as a kernel of corn in a goat's ass."

Tell me that isn't priceless.

.... be careful, you don't want them to hear you..... they will be demanding everyone to remove his name from anything.  Then just like that, it never happened and history is rewritten!

[trotrof1]

I was at Indy in 91 on a practice day. I remember the announcer saying, "CARROLL SHELBY ON TRACK RIGHT NOW" as he wheeled the new Viper around the track. There was a problem with the Dodge Stealth not being a USA built car and the Viper became the pace car.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

The stories I saw and heard in the late 60s don't match a lot of the "facts" that were spouted from the same lips 30 years later.

[Side-Oilers]

I was at Indy in 91 on a practice day. I remember the announcer saying, "CARROLL SHELBY ON TRACK RIGHT NOW" as he wheeled the new Viper around the track. There was a problem with the Dodge Stealth not being a USA built car and the Viper became the pace car.

True.  And other machinations from behind the scenes.

[Side-Oilers]

The stories I saw and heard in the late 60s don't match a lot of the "facts" that were spouted from the same lips 30 years later.

I've not met many men whose stories don't get "better" with time. 

[Don Johnston]

I've not met many men whose stories don't get "better" with time. 
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You mean like at high school reunions and SAAC conventions, for example?   

[TA Coupe]

Let's lighten up things a little bit. Do any of you know the true meaning for the car GLHS? I know what Carroll told me when I was sitting with him at the SEMA show in Vegas in 1988 or 89.

   Roy

Don't leave us hanging Roy, share what he told you 

How about a few more guesses first. Once I tell you, you will know it came straight  from the old man.

                 Roy

[trotrof1]

I thought it was goes like hell Shelby.

[shelbydoug]

Who got the other "I-talian" stop watch at Lemans?


This all strikes me as a little like a baseball call at home plate. Everyone seems to disagree with the home plate umpire and after looking at the replay from every angle it becomes very clear that the issue is depending on where you were sitting and therefore your view that the runner was either safe or out? Everyone is right but someone needed to make a call.

[68gtcoupe]

Let's lighten up things a little bit. Do any of you know the true meaning for the car GLHS? I know what Carroll told me when I was sitting with him at the SEMA show in Vegas in 1988 or 89.

   Roy

Don't leave us hanging Roy, share what he told you 

How about a few more guesses first. Once I tell you, you will know it came straight  from the old man.

                 Roy

Goddamn Little Hunk of Shit?

[Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas]

Our English writing teacher in college gave me good advice , "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story" As long as it's basically telling the story, the gist of it has a kernel of truth, it moves at a pleasant pace and everyone enjoys it, the facts just get in the way. Sort of like "Ford vs Ferrari".  Was the Movie enjoyable? Was it 100% fact driven ?

[6s2055]

There are countless facts and fiction about "The Man". If I remember right....and that's a stretch....around 1968 Carroll decided to ride off into the sunset. Along comes SAAC a few years latter and revives his almost forgotten legacy, continues to build further towards his legacy and then years later sues the organization that kept it all going.

[Side-Oilers]

Goddamn Little Hunk of Shit?
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I think that's probably pretty close to the truth.

They were fun to drive though.  Especially to blow the doors off the guys in IROC Camaros. 

[Don Johnston]

The GLHS was a fun toy for its time during the EPA hammerings and speed limit era.  It was an affordable and  amazing little power box for its time.  However, it was an instant rust bucket and that is another reason why few remain.

[owenkelley]

I thought I read somewhere that it supposedly stood for "Goes Like Hell Summore", but that may be the PG rated version.

That's what I had always heard - GLH - Goes like Hell - GLHS - Goes Like Hell S'more.....

Bash 'em all ya want, it's still fun to drive, and it's way more rare than my '67 GT500!