GT Roadster GT/108 PR Tour 65: Newport Beach Concours d Elegance- Pic found

[The Old Ranger]

Another pic of GT/108

[Richstang]

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That's an interesting photo you found. Thank you for posting it here!
The GT/108 Roadster appears to be next to GT/104 (no11) and perhaps this was taken inside the race hanger at LAX.

Notice the tape residue on the nose in an offset square shape. That matches it's last race at the Nurburgring on May 23rd, 1965.
It would take about a week to ship back to the USA, so this photo would likely have been taken at the end of May or in very early June.
I'm suggesting it was at LAX since GT/108 was already in the US and appeared with CS and HFIII on June 8, 1965 at the open house.

[Szabo]

Thanks for your answers and pics ...

Nice to read and see some thougts from others.

This last Pic is very difficult for me, i saw it befor on the www an my research and it
was described but not importend for this story ...

unfortanally i dont find the source and describe.

Your explain with the GT40 in the Pic and a Timecode and your thougt it was on LAX
i tryed several search to figure that out, but i dont find any little thing to
double bulletproofed it.

But search go on and so i will soon show some new pics from Riverside

Stay tuned

Stephan

[Szabo]

For a few days i found on the John Atzenbach Mecum Site a 3 negativ
from a GT Roadster and some Cobras and a GT350R

i was electrified and have some conversation which Richstang and
would like to share with you.

i never saw this pics befor and think normaly no one will notice that
this Pics was from the Riverside Event

But when you flip the negativ and enlarge it and have some known
Pics for focus the Details this is proofed for me.

So enjoy the Return to Riverside

first this known Pic from my first post, notice how the cars stand
in the Row


the first Dia negativ (flipped and enlarged) show the same standing
from GT/108, behind the GT350R and next to them the Cobra "x98"
new for this pic is Ken Miles Cobra "98" behind the first Cobra,
but we know that both Cobras was on the Event and driven


the second Dia negativ (flipped) shows the GT350R,
this is not 5R002 because of the Vent Windows, no Decals or Stickers on it
in the backround we can see the Transporter Caravan


the third Dia negativ shows the Cobra "98" driven by Ken Miles,
in the backround clearly you see the Riverside building,
right you can see the nose of an Alfa Romeo Car
on the B/W photo you can see this Alfa Car standing left to the building




for me this Pics are stunning and new,
what do you think

Greets from Germany

Stephan

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Probably Freidman. How do we tell the 4 small block roadsters apart? 108, 109, 111 & 112. This is a good article on 109. I always remembered Dean Jefferies referring to his GT40 as his retirement project. A toy he was going to do after he closed his shop. PS 110 was a big block. I do realize the history of this car as the only one to run LeMans but being a SoCal guy I'm really torn that it is restored to original rather than how completed by one of SoCal's most famous and well known customizers. He also had some sketches he'd done for mild customization but left the body stock due to rising value.  (He arguably did start the Pirate Porsche trend https://petrolicious.com/marketplace/dean-jeffries-1956-porsche-356a-gs-carrera-coupe many years before it became popular) 

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2018/11/08/ford-built-five-gt40-roadsters-but-only-one-raced-in-the-24-hours-of-le-mans

Hallo again,

i found two pics on a FB Site "GT350Lady" but without any source or Infos...





we can clearly see the GT/108 with blacked hood and Racestripe

and luckywise we can see a GT350R, a Daytona, a GT40, a Cobra
and a Lotus Ford ?

because of Richstang we know that the GT40 was P/1004, thx for that Info

but where or when was the Pic made

a Detail we see in the backround is that tower and so
Richstang and myself tryed to see that Tower on Watkins Glen,
because we know the GT/108 was on that Timecode in the same look

i found some pics for Watkins Glen with a tower but it seems to be
two different because in the direct Pic we see no forest in the backround

on the bird view pic there was everywhere forrest behind the tower

Maybe somebody here has any thought or know something about Watkins Glen
or even better the standort from the towers







i tried to maximize the tower and worked a little bit of the pic
i marked my thougts on the Pic

[Richstang]

Riverside April 30 - May 2 weekend
Anyone know the ID for the white street Cobra (289?) The other two #98 Cobra's are well known.
The R model is probably 5r001. There were only a handfulf of R models completed by that time and the few others were customer cars.
I don't think it's 5r002 as it had the single piece side window until at least 4/18/67. (By 6/27 it appeared with the added false vent window.

98SVT - was 06GT
I'm not sure if your asking how to tell the other roadsters apart from GT/108 in period or now.
There are several period photos of each car to tell them apart, but after they made their public appearances I haven't followed what changes may have taken place.
108 shown in this thread, was white with the blue side rocker stripes, later getting the blacked out hood
109 only appeared at LeMans June 20, 1965 in white with a blue center stripe (no15) It had hood vents that were triangular shaped but rounded in the center.
111 appears at the LeMans time trials in April 1965 in white (no7) with flat sided triangle shaped hood vents. It was repainted light green for Targa Florio (no194).
112 appeared at the Nurburgring in the same light green, but with white side rocker stripes (no10). The body looked the same as 111. By 1966 it was painted dark green.

[Szabo]

i am really happy to share some new colours from USRRC Laguna Seca Event,
wonderfull in colour and found in a old Shelby American Magazin.

the know Pic from GT108 was in the parking lot with the other cobras from the race:

New Information --- on the bumper sticker is "Laguna Seca" written, rest is unkown



The new pics show perfect the transporter deliever the race Cobras and GT/108, i loved it











notice the Paper on the side windows "Lock - dont touch" and the blue interieur


Hope you like it.

Greets

Stephan

[Richstang]

i am really happy to share some new colours from USRRC Laguna Seca Event,
wonderfull in colour and found in a old Shelby American Magazin.

the know Pic from GT108 was in the parking lot with the other cobras from the race:

New Information --- on the bumper sticker is "Laguna Seca" written, rest is unkown

The new pics show perfect the transporter deliever the race Cobras and GT/108, i loved it






notice the Paper on the side windows "Lock - dont touch" and the blue interieur
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Hope you like it.
Greets

Stephan

This was a great article with COLOR photos in 'The Shelby American" 2016 Spring quarterly issue.
That was the first time I saw csx3012 with the red '1' race number. I just assumed it was black in all the b&w photos with that the Cobra.
I also thought they could only fit four race cars in the boxed transporter trailer. The sequence photos show at least five unloaded. (all in the first pic)
Nice shot of the "Look Don't Touch" sign in the window of the roadster. I guess there were fewer restriction to the pit area back in those days.

[AZFAST1]

Great photos! We helped restore #109 a few years ago, had to look back at lots of period photos to get details correct. It wound up taking 2nd place at Pebble Beach in the GT40 class. Thanks for sharing!

[Side-Oilers]

That woman looks as tall as Gheorghe Mureșan next to the car.

[Richstang]

Early March 1965...Silverstone test days with Transporter in background

[kranky]

Hallo again,

i found two pics on a FB Site "GT350Lady" but without any source or Infos...



we can clearly see the GT/108 with blacked hood and Racestripe
and luckywise we can see a GT350R, a Daytona, a GT40, a Cobra
and a Lotus Ford ?

because of Richstang we know that the GT40 was P/1004, thx for that Info

but where or when was the Pic made

The first two photos, posted by Stephan, with this group of Shelby's is a fantastic site and find!!!
At first I didn't think it was at Watkins Glen, but there too many coincidences pointing to that location.

Looks at the collection of cars here;
The Cobra CSX3011 no98 to the left in the first photo
The GT40 P/1004 in front of the Cobra
The GT350 R model is what I believe to be 5R213 in front of the GT40
The Daytona to the right of the GT350 R model appears to be CSX2287 (note the no10 on the rear)
The Roadster GT/108 with the blackout hood

This appears to be a preview of the cars that would become part of the 'Cobra Caravan' that toured the country for a month, starting November 17 through December 17th, 1965. 

-The Daytona csx2287, went on to the Bonneville Salt Flats November 6, 1965. It needed to be refreshed afterwards, so it was replaced for the start of the Cobra Caravan tour with CSX2286.
-The previous rear view photo, posted in this thread of the lone '65 GT350 R model, was said to be a pace car at the October 2-3, 1965 Watkins Glen US GP race.
It certainly matches in appearance (no rear bumper or sponsors) and the timing fits. The R model in the Caravan has been said to be 5R213.
-Finally the Grand Prix car race no7, Brabham BT11, was in Watkins Glen for the US Grand Prix. That matches perfectly in timing.

A little bit more information on the Watkins Glen event....October 1, 1965 (Friday)....It was set up as a 3-hour seminar and demonstration with Jim Clark, Stirling Moss and Juan Manuel Fangio.  Jim Clark used the first hour to explain "the racing skill and knowledge which have led him to two world titles."  Stirling Moss spoke "on race techniques, strategy and gamesmanship."  Fangio was there to show "driving techniques in sports cars."  Carroll Shelby provided the cars and "lectured on the construction and driving of a race car."  "Three team drivers, Skip Scott and Tom Payne of Michigan and Bob Johnson of Ohio, showed their techniques in Shelby built cars." (quotes are from the The Boston Sunday Globe-October 3, 1965)

[Szabo]

Hey,

little but extraordinary news in this Thread ...

The last missing piece of the puzzle was always the 3rd Annual South Course Concours d'Elegance Newport Beach Event on May 16, 1965

i read in the Auction Sales Brochure about that event, but never find a pic or anything on the net.

I even suspected it was misinformation, but when you no longer expect it, sometimes something wonderful happens

So i found in the Autoweek Issue 19 June 1965 a little but very nice pic and report from GT/108 on the show.





I am really happy to find a bulletproofed articel on an time authentic Car Magazin / Newspaper
for me a long journey is completed

Hope you can feel what i mean and have some joy also

Greets from Germany

Stephan

[AZFAST1]

Here are some photos showing 108 Im guessing in 1971 in Michigan based on the license plate. Someone sent them to me when we were researching 109 during restoration.

[AZFAST1]

few more photos