'67 K Codes

[qballll]

67'K with competition suspension and paxton supercharger 

[Bob Gaines]

67'K with competition suspension and paxton supercharger 

More interesting and harder to source to me then the add on Paxton is the fact it that the picture car has the correct hubcaps and tires for that option car.

[Qman]

The pictures above were put on by my son. I'm still stuck in the last century and can't seem to get out.

This car is a competition suspension car and a k kode.  It was a typical Michigan car with lots of rust so a lot of sheet metal was replaced in the process of the restoration. The first owner bought the super charger before ordering the car. He told me that decision to buy the blower came about after reading an article in Hot Rod magazine. I'm no expert on competition suspension cars but I'm willing to share what knowledge I have with those on the forum. If more pictures are needed I can them to my son for viewing on this site.

[Richstang]

67'K with competition suspension and paxton supercharger 

Welcome to the forum!

Do you know anything else about this '67 K-code GT?
(Where was the photo taken, what interior trim does it have, etc...)

This might be 1 of only 2 K-codes '67 Convertibles with the comp suspension. (21 total per the Ford records)

[Qman]

I do have a lot of information about the car including a copy of the purchase/sales slip. I've sent the Marti to my son and it on the site later today. Qman

[J_Speegle]

This might be 1 of only 2 K-codes '67 Convertibles with the comp suspension. (21 total per the Ford records)

Believe the pictures were taken at a MCA show.

As far as the suspension option it appears that it was allot less popular on K codes than on S code Mustangs. Of course I think we've realized, like many buyers, that it didn't make allot of sense to purchase a fastback with the option unless you just didn't want the flash and attention that a Shelby would bring with it.

From Marti reports it appears that there were 141 Mustangs with the package 

Did own a S code comp suspension car years ago. Was fun to drive and but a terrible car for autocross and such 

[Bob Gaines]

The pictures above were put on by my son. I'm still stuck in the last century and can't seem to get out.

This car is a competition suspension car and a k kode.  It was a typical Michigan car with lots of rust so a lot of sheet metal was replaced in the process of the restoration. The first owner bought the super charger before ordering the car. He told me that decision to buy the blower came about after reading an article in Hot Rod magazine. I'm no expert on competition suspension cars but I'm willing to share what knowledge I have with those on the forum. If more pictures are needed I can them to my son for viewing on this site.

Although very interesting to the history of this car it doesn't really matter in the eyes of the market or if showing in a MCA concours venue by the rules if the supercharger was purchased before or after when it is a owner add on . MCA has modified class's for that.  Of course if you could prove it was a dealer add before delivery to the first owner with reasonable back up documentation and not just hearsay then it would be very significant to both the history and the value of the car. I am not saying that is this case but we hear stories all of the time about out of the ordinary items added to cars when they were new to justify them with no other proof then hearsay from the previous owner. The burden of proof in those cases is on the teller of the out of the ordinary occurrence. Cool car for sure.

[Harris Speedster]

Do we know if this is an early 66 build 67 K car?

[Richstang]

Do we know if this is an early 66 build 67 K car?

Later build. I'll let the owner share any more info.

[Survivor]

So, 489 seems to be the accepted production number for '67 non Shelby k codes? 

Small number given total '67 (again non Shelby) production-likely making it the rarest "Mustang" on that basis alone-which is definitely where a k code Registry would be a benefit.

Are we thinking that less than 73 exist-again, something a Registry would help refine-up or down.

I have 2 k code Build Sheets in my possession-both in extraordinary condition.  One for a car that passed thru the shop that I use and the other for my own GT/A Coupe. 

While I see that both Build Sheets denote the cars as actual "k codes" (top left of the Sheet), mine does not designate the car as a GT (at least that I can decipher).  However, my Marti notes the car as having the GT Option.  It does not, however, designate Competition Suspension as an option.     

Q- is there some authority suggesting that all '67 k codes had to also be factory GT's.  While I suppose it's possible, I find it unlikely that one could not order what I'll call a "plain jane" k code in any style for '67.   
Q- is there an accepted definition/authority for what constitutes the "Competition Suspension" option and when that designation would have been noted on a '67 k code Marti as an option.   
Q- would a '67 k code Marti note the car as having both the "GT" and "Competition Suspension" options or would it be the case that a factory GT equipped k code would already have the competition suspension installed-rendering it unnecessary to also note it as an optional item. 

My Marti does not mention Competition Suspension as an option.  My understanding, however, is that all '67 GT's ( k code or otherwise) were factory equipped with that option-a point that is referenced in the Mustang Recognition Guide (by Larry Dobbs et al) on page 94 titled "GT Equipment Group":  I'll quote: "The GT Equipment Group was available on any 1967 Mustang equipped with one of the 4 v-8 engines.  For '67 only, automatic versions received a special GT/A designation-for GT Automatic".

Skipping to bullet point 7 as to what constitutes the GT Equipment Group: "Special Handling Package with higher rate springs and shocks, and larger front stabilizer bar". 

Q- is that the definition of the "Competition Suspension" option or not.  And, if it is, wouldn't it be the case that only non-GT equipped cars (if there were such a thing in the k code world of 1967) would have that option noted on the Marti?

Anyway, I had a few minutes tonite...

[Bob Gaines]

 What do think constitutes a competition suspension?

[J_Speegle]

Q- is there an accepted definition/authority for what constitutes the "Competition Suspension" option and when that designation would have been noted on a '67 k code Marti as an option.   

Ford records and in turn then Marti reports, original window stickers or build sheets

Q- would a '67 k code Marti note the car as having both the "GT" and "Competition Suspension" options or would it be the case that a factory GT equipped k code would already have the competition suspension installed-rendering it unnecessary to also note it as an optional item. 

No the GT suspension was not the same as the Competition suspension package. So on Marti reports you will see K codes with the GT package and others with GT and Competition  listed as separate line items just as they would on factory invoices and window stickers

Other items that were part of the Competition suspension package were also listed on the window sticker but listed as NC (no charge) since they were included with the package

Examples



We've had a number of discussions about the subject on CMF over the years covering the subject fairly well.  Though always room to find out more

[Richstang]

To add to what Jeff said,

There is Ford documentation that lists the following as separate options;

The 271hp Hi-Performance 289 4V Cobra V8 - dual exhausts system – requires the GT equipment group.
(This option cost double the 390 option)

The 'Competition Handling Package' is available with GT equipment group for 271 and 320hp V8 engines.
(Multiple upgrades are listed for that package at a hefty additional option sum that was more than the 271hp engine.)

The GT Equipment is an additional option with another added cost.

Yes, there are Marti Reports noting both the GT equipment and the Comp suspension as separate options.
This includes Marti's for both the K-code and the S-code engine cars.

If your Marti Report does not list the 'Comp Package", it did not get that option.

The 'Special Handling Package" is not the same as a "Competition Handling Package".

[Bob Gaines]

A friend Marty Rupp posted some years ago a copy of a vintage Ford Sales catalog on the Concours Mustang forum which describes exactly what constitutes the Competition Handling Package.

[Survivor]

My thanks to all who took the time to respond and clarify my questions.  Incredibly helpful information.