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[Coralsnake]

Thank you, sir.

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[shelbymann1970]

Did a layer over in photoshop, don't see any issues. IMO any differences can be easily explained by reflections, camera angle, etc.

Depth of stamp can vary also. It is put in by humans and pressures and such can determine a stamp. Stamps wear out and have to be replaced. What was Ford's quality control to the company who made the stamps for them. If it was a 3/16th "star" stamp whose to say they couldn't vary. Ford a long time I worked in the stamping field for GM and we just changed stamps on a daily basis off of what was ordered. A friend of mine said he thought he had  a bunch of those star stamps given to him by his dad who worked for Ford down in an Ohio plant. He has yet to find them but his 3 car garage is filled up with Home Depot products(don't ask) and he hasn't found them yet. I'd love to see if they were all exactly the same. Also look at Little Red's vin stamps. I got pics of the DS fender apron stamped twice and they are offset front to back. So the placement means little to me. I'd think anyone trying to re-stamp would sure as heck make sure it was in between the notches of the fender opening. Gary

[shelbymann1970]

I am not well versed on the early cars, were panel date codes stamped in with hand stamps or pressed into panels?

PS: I am not going to try to take  sides or evaluate this car over a couple interweb photos, just trying to learn.

I don't think a person could make a stamp that deep stamping by hand.  We used to change date stamps daily and by shift in my facilities at GM where I used to work. The differences in depth could and can be changed by shimming the stamp block that holds the stamps. Done that many times. Of course date codes were there for quality control.  Gary

[Coralsnake]

I by no means have the professional experience you have, but some of the stampings in reply "27" look hand stamped to me. Thus likely indicating a replacement panel.

[Special Ed]

Pete must be looking at the 1 & 3  # fonts  and the group # alignment on the date code.

[CharlesTurner]

Pete must be looking at the 1 & 3  # fonts  and the group # alignment on the date code.

The radiator support stamping?

[Coralsnake]

[J_Speegle]

In the picture above (turned side ways I believe)  do we believe/agree that to the left hand side is the up or top of the radiator support?

[427hunter]

Do other 1965 date code number ones have an underscore like this? Or a number two without the little curl up at the end of the underscore?

Can someone who owns a 65 post the number font used.

[J_Speegle]

Do other 1965 date code number ones have an underscore like this? Or a number two without the little curl up at the end of the underscore?

Can someone who owns a 65 post the number font used.

If your going down that path suggest examples focus on same stamping plant and time period just to be sure

[427hunter]

Do other 1965 date code number ones have an underscore like this? Or a number two without the little curl up at the end of the underscore?

Can someone who owns a 65 post the number font used.

If your going down that path suggest examples focus on same stamping plant and time period just to be sure

I agree - someone with a SJ 65 please post front inner Sheetmetal 1,2,3 and the letter C please..

[427hunter]

This is the number font I would expect to see on a SJ date code these cars are 5 days apart.

vs the 65 in question.

[J_Speegle]

This is the number font I would expect to see on a SJ date code these cars are 5 days apart.

Believe you meant to write "these two parts have dates 5 days apart" We don't really know when either were really completed. It's the date stamp that is the focus

As you have likely found, front inner fender panels were stamped at another plant

[427hunter]

This is the number font I would expect to see on a SJ date code these cars are 5 days apart.

Believe you meant to write "these two parts have dates 5 days apart" We don't really know when either were really completed. It's the date stamp that is the focus

As you have likely found front inner fender panels were stamped at another plant

Rather then play word games, lets stick to the font. Do you have an example to provide ?

P.S. it would stand to reason that if similar date coded parts arrived at SJ for k code assembly to fill orders for cars sent to Shelby, the font should be the same.  This is why I am asking for someone to post some date codes of 65 SJ cars. Both above examples are from GT350's with very close date codes yet the car that was said to have inner fender work has different font, other examples may shed some light on this discussion.

[CharlesTurner]

Rather then play word games, lets stick to the font. Do you have an example to provide ?

P.S. it would stand to reason that if similar date coded parts arrived at SJ for k code assembly to fill orders for cars sent to Shelby, the font should be the same.  This is why I am asking for someone to post some date codes of 65 SJ cars. Both above examples are from GT350's with very close date codes yet the car that was said to have inner fender work has different font, other examples may shed some light on this discussion.

Most of the other inner fender date stamps are 'D' (Dearborn) metal stamping plant.  The rad support has a 'C', which if I remember right is Cleveland.