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Does anyone know why it has air conditioning registers in the dash?  It looks like there is no a/c compressor or other a/c parts under the hood.  I presume that the a/c setup would not work/fit with the dual Paxton superchargers?

0131 like its sister cars, 0100 and 0139, was originally ordered and built with A/C.  The under hood A/C parts on 0131 were all removed in order to make room for the dual Paxton superchargers.

Thanks,
Eric

[1968]

Does anyone know why it has air conditioning registers in the dash?  It looks like there is no a/c compressor or other a/c parts under the hood.  I presume that the a/c setup would not work/fit with the dual Paxton superchargers?

0131 like its sister cars, 0100 and 0139, were all originally ordered and built with A/C.  The under hood A/C parts on 0131 were all removed in order to make room for the dual Paxton superchargers.

Thanks,
Eric

Thanks.  That makes sense.  But as I thought about it more, I seem to recall seeing a photo of a GT 500 with dual Paxton superchargers and A/C.  It might have been a '68 GT 500.  Maybe it was on the old forum?  But I recall that somebody figured out a way to do it.

[Richstang]

I don't recall ever seeing A/C with a Paxton, never mind two Paxton's.
I'd suspect it to be nearly impossible to fit with both AC and the power steering on the left.

[1968]

I don't recall ever seeing A/C with a Paxton, never mind two Paxton's.
I'd suspect it to be nearly impossible to fit with both AC and the power steering on the left.

Here is a link to a '68 GT 350 with one Paxton and A/C:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

[1968]

I don't recall ever seeing A/C with a Paxton, never mind two Paxton's.
I'd suspect it to be nearly impossible to fit with both AC and the power steering on the left.

Here is a link to a '68 GT 350 with one Paxton and A/C:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

The photo of the engine compartment was not showing up with that link, but I found a saved copy from years ago (I think it was from the same article).  The A/C compressor is relocated to the passenger side, and it is a high RPM Sanden unit, which would be more compatible with supercharger use.

[1968]

I don't recall ever seeing A/C with a Paxton, never mind two Paxton's.
I'd suspect it to be nearly impossible to fit with both AC and the power steering on the left.

Here is a link to a '68 GT 350 with one Paxton and A/C:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

The photo of the engine compartment was not showing up with that link, but I found a saved copy from years ago (I think it was from the same article).  The A/C compressor is relocated to the passenger side, and it is a high RPM Sanden unit, which would be more compatible with supercharger use.

I have not seen any '67's, but here is another 1968 GT350 with a single Paxton and A/C.  It should be the same for a '67.  I have not seen any photos with dual Paxtons and A/C.  That would be difficult, to say the least...

[Bob Gaines]

I don't recall ever seeing A/C with a Paxton, never mind two Paxton's.
I'd suspect it to be nearly impossible to fit with both AC and the power steering on the left.

Here is a link to a '68 GT 350 with one Paxton and A/C:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

The photo of the engine compartment was not showing up with that link, but I found a saved copy from years ago (I think it was from the same article).  The A/C compressor is relocated to the passenger side, and it is a high RPM Sanden unit, which would be more compatible with supercharger use.

I have not seen any '67's, but here is another 1968 GT350 with a single Paxton and A/C.  It should be the same for a '67.  I have not seen any photos with dual Paxtons and A/C.  That would be difficult, to say the least...

That picture shows a modern conversion . No A/C paxton cars were done back in the day regardless of if 67,68 or even 69/70 . Those types of conversions did not start showing up until the advent of the more modern compressor alternatives in the 1980's

[1968]

I don't recall ever seeing A/C with a Paxton, never mind two Paxton's.
I'd suspect it to be nearly impossible to fit with both AC and the power steering on the left.

Here is a link to a '68 GT 350 with one Paxton and A/C:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

The photo of the engine compartment was not showing up with that link, but I found a saved copy from years ago (I think it was from the same article).  The A/C compressor is relocated to the passenger side, and it is a high RPM Sanden unit, which would be more compatible with supercharger use.

I have not seen any '67's, but here is another 1968 GT350 with a single Paxton and A/C.  It should be the same for a '67.  I have not seen any photos with dual Paxtons and A/C.  That would be difficult, to say the least...

That picture shows a modern conversion . No A/C paxton cars were done back in the day regardless of if 67,68 or even 69/70 . Those types of conversions did not start showing up until the advent of the more modern compressor alternatives in the 1980's

Of course.  Both the Paxton and the A/C compressor and its relocation are mods.  But the question that I was responding to was whether it could be done, and those photos are proof that it has been done on a GT350.  I think that it is also theoretically possible on a '67 or '68 GT500, but you would need to fabricate a bracket or two, be very creative with the A/C hose routing, and use a small Sanden A/C compressor.  You might need to relocate the battery and the windshield washer reservoir (on late '67 and '68 cars) too.  It seems that maintaining the functioning A/C on Little Red was not considered, probably because the A/C compressor alternatives were not as extensive in 1967, as you pointed out.

[roddster]

A couple of years back, at a MCAC N show there was a 68 GT500 with A/C  and a Paxton .  I think Tim Lea had something to do with the restoration. Or possibly the Coralsnake.   
  In short, custom blower mounting on the right side,, trunk mounted battery.

[1968]

A couple of years back, at a MCAC N show there was a 68 GT500 with A/C  and a Paxton .  I think Tim Lea had something to do with the restoration. Or possibly the Coralsnake.   
  In short, custom blower mounting on the right side,, trunk mounted battery.

Thanks.  That must be the one I remember seeing.

[roddster]

Another thing: Adding a charger does not change the Rpm limit. It helps getting to the limit faster.

[honker]

There is this '68 with air and charger, this car is probably known here ? not too many photos with the article.

He does say he only knows of one other '68 with air & Charger ?

Getting away from '67s here though 

Mike

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

[1968]

There is this '68 with air and charger, this car is probably known here ? not too many photos with the article.

He does say he only knows of one other '68 with air & Charger ?

Getting away from '67s here though 

Mike

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1001-1968-shelby-gt350

I am pretty sure that is the car in the photo in Reply #34 of this thread.  I think that I downloaded the photo back when it was still included with the article.  Some of the photos, including that one of the engine bay, seem to have been removed from that web page.  I think that there would be no difference for 1967 or 1968.  And Little Red ended up being a little bit of each.  While it seems that those other cars with a Paxton and A/C are all GT350's, the same setup would work on a GT500 with a single 4V intake and a single Paxton, but probably would fit better with a Sanden A/C compressor if the Paxton is mounted on the driver's side.  The Sanden unit upgrade appears to be what was used in those GT350's in the photos.

See Reply #265 in the other Little Red thread regarding why a cross-ram intake would be best for dual Paxtons, but that would require modifying/cutting the hood as the cross-ram intakes sit too high for the stock hoods.  I think it was the Edelbrock cross-ram intake that was used on the two 427 Cobras with the dual Paxtons, and they had the hoods cut with a scoop added.  It seems that the Edelbrock cross-ram separates the intake for the two carbs so that each one is dedicated to the 4 cylinders on that side.  Otherwise, a single 4V intake with a single Paxton would seem like the better setup for the GT500, just like the GT350, but with reduced boost due to the larger displacement of the big block.  That is what they ended up doing with Little Red back in the day, as shown in the vintage photo below.

-JW

[honker]

JW, thanks for the heads up, I missed that you had already posted that link, and the deleted photo 

Mike