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Shelby Newbee & Correct Wheels?

Started by corsellis, June 04, 2021, 11:34:30 AM

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corsellis

Hi

I am the new and incredibly proud British owner/current custodian of a 67 Shelby GT500 -  in what seems to be original condition (and will remain so!) Can anyone share any thoughts on the wheel options at the time as struggling to match these given the info I have (apologies if a bit of a basic question.)

Kind regards

James

Tired Sheep

Three different wheels were used

Steel wheel with hubcap

Magstar

10 spoke; the picture you posted appears to have the features of the original style wheel

The original paperwork should describe the wheel type on your specific car

silverton_ford


chris NOS

Congratulations , please give us more info and pictures !! ;)

68krrrr

Yea congrats that must be a pretty rare bird on the other side of the pond,you should get your Marti report to check all the options.
Current
1967 GT500 #1724
Nightmist Blue /Parchment
2005 Ford Gt Midnight blue
Porsche 911 Turbo 2007 Highly modified
1934 Ford Chopped & channeled

Previously owned
1968 GT500KR #03528 Lime green
1968 GT/CS

"Fly low & avoid the radar"
Thanks Adam

GT350DAVE

Marti gets his 1967 Shelby wheel information from SAAC. Check with the registrar.
Dave
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JD

#6
^^^ Dave is the '67 SAAC Registrar, PM him regarding your question of what wheels were most likely on the car originally. ;-)

Congratulations on getting a car!!

Post a photo or two and can you share the car number?
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelbydoug

Quote from: GT350DAVE on June 06, 2021, 09:22:15 AM
Marti gets his 1967 Shelby wheel information from SAAC. Check with the registrar.
Dave

True but the documentation only shows what wheels the car was scheduled to be built with, not how someone like Bill Kolb at Gotham Ford sold and delivered it.

I personally lean towards the Ford documentation. You can't go wrong with that.
68 GT350 Lives Matter!

Bob Gaines

#8
Quote from: corsellis on June 04, 2021, 11:34:30 AM
Hi

I am the new and incredibly proud British owner/current custodian of a 67 Shelby GT500 -  in what seems to be original condition (and will remain so!) Can anyone share any thoughts on the wheel options at the time as struggling to match these given the info I have (apologies if a bit of a basic question.)

Kind regards

James
Congratulations on getting the car. I sold Matt some genuine parts to help keep it more original. The reproduction tires on the wheels in the picture however are not 67 Shelby style. Whoever ordered them got confused on the choice to buy. The tire in the ten spoke picture came factory on 68/69 Chevrolet Z28 only. Here is a link to Kelsey tire  https://www.kelseytire.com/performance-group-2/e70-15-speedway-350-small-letter-rwl/  for the correct style for later production 67 Shelby . The ones in the picture on the ten spoke will never be authentic looking however there is something easy to do if you want to make it to look closer to factory. If you black out all but the "Goodyear"  they will look more like the factory style to the casual viewer. There are other details on the wide tread tire but those aren't as obvious . Krylon fast drying semi gloss black paint in a spray can is what is preferred to use over in here the US for the purpose of blacking out the inappropriate lettering. Hopefully there is that or a equivalent over there.  I can only imagine the cost and logistics to get a set of the correct reissue tires over in the UK.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Richstang

Yes, congrats for getting your Shelby GT500. That's very cool. We're looking forward to your next post.
I sent you a PM to try to help with the options (wheels) your car might have had from the LAX.

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Richstang

Quote from: shelbydoug on June 06, 2021, 10:14:52 AM
Quote from: GT350DAVE on June 06, 2021, 09:22:15 AM
Marti gets his 1967 Shelby wheel information from SAAC. Check with the registrar.
Dave

True but the documentation only shows what wheels the car was scheduled to be built with, not how someone like Bill Kolb at Gotham Ford sold and delivered it.

I personally lean towards the Ford documentation. You can't go wrong with that.


Doug,

I COMPLETELY disagree with you on looking at the Ford paperwork (Marti Reports) for the wheel options.
Ford documents only tell us how the car was shipped to LAX, not how they were shipped out when the cars were completed!
Marti reports are great to look at how the base unit was built, but Ford did not have any Shelby records of how the car was completed.
Most of that is guess work from old registries or SAAC information.
Only the Shelby American paperwork can prove with authority exactly how the car left the SAI factory.

The Shelby American 'PRODUCTION ORDER' notes exactly how the car was completed by options.
The Shelby American 'INVOICE' backs that up with charges for upgrades or mandatory options.

The PO's were typically how the cars were ordered by the selling dealers, many times for the customers.

Most dealers did not have large inventories of the slower selling '67's Shelby's sitting around, to swap wheels.
They were not Fords built in the thousands. (Larsen was only one dealer out of many franchised Shelby dealers.)
Non franchised dealers only received one or two '67 Shelby's. That noted at about 1000 cars of the 3,225 completed.
Most of those non franchised dealers' cars were equipped with Shelby 10-spokes.

If a car was sitting on the lot, if it had standard wheel covers, then if and only if it was a large selling dealer there MIGHT be a car to swap wheels at the same time.
That is a lot of ifs, ands, or buts!

We have to identify each car by Shelby VIN number to see which dealers it was shipped to.
Then we have to look at when it was shipped.
Then we look to see if it had upgraded or changed wheels.
Then we would have to look at the time it shipped to see if there might be another car they could steal/swap the wheels with.
While I don't doubt it happened, here's where I say the 'burden of proof' is on the owner to have dealer paperwork to proof it.
The odds are that didn't happen.
While it might not be a deduction for SAAC/MCA judging, I do think those cars should be as it left LAX.



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