Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates

[joephil]

 

[6R07mi]

A 1964 Le Mans puzzle.
Two cars with the same '1E MFG 013' license plate!
My first thought was one photo was taken prior to race day (#5) and the other was on race day (#6)

BUT...

One photo (#6) shows the 1964 California registration sticker and the other photo (#5) has no registration sticker.
?

Edit; Updated list in first post with new information and more cars added

is the registration sticker only on the rear plate? perhaps they used the front plate on #5 ??

jim p

[honker]

The only Daytona coupe I've seen with a front plate (off set to the right  side) was for sale in Road & Track by Russkit, the slot car

people back in '66. yours for $12,500 !

Mike

[joephil]

#5 #6 no front plates

[sd427]

Correct, in California, reg stickers are only applied on the rear plate.  Since plates are issued in pairs, even MFG plates, easy enough for one pair to be split across two vehicles.

[Richstang]

You gentlemen figured it out!!! Thanks to all of you!

Here's a color photo of both cars next to the pits, which might be on race day.
It first appeared that csx2299 had '1C MFG 013', but now we know it was the front plate and actually '1E MFG 013'

Nice effort from everyone!

[honker]

Four coupes, I believe this is Le mans ? 1X on the left, 1E in the middle, far right ?

Mike

[honker]

tighter images, hope you can read the plates ?

Mike

[honker]

The only Daytona coupe I've seen with a front plate (off set to the right  side) was for sale in Road & Track by Russkit, the slot car

people back in '66. yours for $12,500 !

Mike

So are you saying the Russkit slot car people sold the slot car for $12,500?
That's how I'm reading it

The Road & track ad 

[Richstang]

tighter images, hope you can read the plates ?

Mike

Thanks Mike

There were 5 Daytona at LM in '65. I believe the plates were as follows;
1E - LM csx2601
1X - LM csx2299
2C - LM csx2602 (red)
2H - LM csx2286
2N - LM csx2287

[69mach351w]

The only Daytona coupe I've seen with a front plate (off set to the right  side) was for sale in Road & Track by Russkit, the slot car

people back in '66. yours for $12,500 !

Mike

So are you saying the Russkit slot car people sold the slot car for $12,500?
That's how I'm reading it

The Road & track ad 

[Richstang]

Hey Guys,

I am sorry that I had not seen this conversation in the last few days but very neat thread here.

FWIW, the '1L 013' plates shown earlier in the thread were originally ran in the Targa Florio on the back of CSX2323...they now ride along on that car while the car's owner rips around the track as god intended...

The 1A number for the 4101 plates (hi performance motors dealer plate) was originally Carroll Shelby's number while 1B was Lew Spencer. You will notice the small "D" on the right of that set of plates...that means "duplicate". Mark Hovander has the original issue 1A plate (CS's) while the pair I had was the duplicate set issued when the twin to Mark's was apparently lost. As a result, there are three 1A plates in existence. These plates were sent to Ed Casey on the East Coast..he was the East Coast Shelby American rep. the 1L 013s were also sent to Casey after their time ripping around Europe was over.

To my knowledge, there are only 2 matched pairs of 013 plates in existence and only 1 matched pair of 4101 plates.

Kind regards,
Vern

Hi Vern,

Here's a photo (with a close up) showing the '1L MFG 013' plate believed to be earlier than the Targa Florio in April 1964
It should be csx2137 at the Tour de Course November 9, 1963.

This is the earliest known photo of a MFG 013 plate I have seen.

[Richstang]

The only time a DLR 4101 plate (1J) has been spotted on a Shelby American race car, is in Europe, on csx2299.
This was taken at the Tour de France September 9, 1964.

Vern mentioned other instances where Hi-Performance DLR plates were used, so the search for photos of them continues on...

[honker]

Daytonas at the 1964 T.D.F, sorry for the poor quality of the one shot, the # 188 car already shown by Richstang

Mike

[Richstang]

Daytonas at the 1964 T.D.F, sorry for the poor quality of the one shot, the # 188 car already shown by Richstang

Mike

Too bad we can't read the plate on #186.
That rear view photo of the cars racing racing shows up on a few sites, but all of them are just to far away (and too dark) to read.