67 shelby guages pod

[JD]

I believe early cars had no screws in the center face plate, while later cars did.
When that change happened, I don't know.

As a follow up to earlier comments

IMO it is likely/possibly there was a short period of time where both were in stock as old inventory was being used up and new was available. Looking at my collection of data I have come up with likely a soft running change around car #170-#210. Have about 200 examples after that point with about 1% (month or more apart) deviation represented by orphan and likely non-original gauge clusters

Unfortunately don't have clear pictures of all of the 1400 cars I have pictures of this detail

Just trying to help

Kyle, Sounds like it's safe for you to use what you have and "plug" the extra hole.

(THANKS, JEFF!)

[Kyle]

I believe early cars had no screws in the center face plate, while later cars did.
When that change happened, I don't know.

As a follow up to earlier comments

IMO it is likely/possibly there was a short period of time where both were in stock as old inventory was being used up and new was available. Looking at my collection of data I have come up with likely a soft running change around car #170-#210. Have about 200 examples after that point with about 1% (month or more apart) deviation represented by orphan and likely non-original gauge clusters

Unfortunately don't have clear pictures of all of the 1400 cars I have pictures of this detail

Just trying to help

Thanks JD,
So My guages pod is reproduction?

[J_Speegle]

Is that an extra small hole in the back of the case behind where the amp gauge is inserted?

After looking at more examples the small "extra" hole would be for the oil pressure tube. But don't see that hole on originals though don't have allot of those pictures. Anyone see this or is this a case again of a reproducer "improving" the original


Kyle you didn't happen to reverse the picture you posted of the housing did you?

Maybe I'm turned around looking at all the pictures  but if that hole was meant for the oil pressure hose on the OP's housing doesn't that put that gauge on the opposite side?  Not sure if we should continue here or start a new thread

OP's housing is at the top of both of the following



*NOTE: the example in the picture below on the bottom has a large hole in the center of the bracket that appears to have been made after the part was painted. Not sure if this is a feature of an original or added by a prior owner/builder




Interesting shot below (still opposite from the OP's picture) and it may be just the angle but here is a side shot showing the oil pressure line going to the drivers side gauge pod but appears its going through of the housing. In the picture above (bottom one) shows that one with the oil pressure hose routed through the square housing opening. Two version?  Owner alteration? This should get some additional comments

[Kyle]

Is that an extra small hole in the back of the case behind where the amp gauge is inserted?

After looking at more examples the small "extra" hole would be for the oil pressure tube. But don't see that hole on originals though don't have allot of those pictures. Anyone see this or is this a case again of a reproducer "improving" the original


Kyle you didn't happen to reverse the picture you posted of the housing did you?

Maybe I'm turned around looking at all the pictures  but if that hole was meant for the oil pressure hose on the OP's housing doesn't that put that gauge on the opposite side?  Not sure if we should continue here or start a new thread

OP's housing is at the top of both of the following






Interesting shot below (still opposite from the OP's picture) and it may be just the angle but here is a side shot showing the oil pressure line going to the drivers side gauge pod but appears its going through of the housing. In the picture above (bottom one) shows that one with the oil pressure hose routed through the square housing opening. Two version?  Owner alteration? This should get some additional comments

Thank you very much, J_speeglo

So my guages pod is an old reproduction or original
Yes me to I think that the small extra hole would be for the oil pressure tube.
Yes we should continue here.

Here are some more photos.

Kyle

[Kyle]

J_Speegle,
Thanks for your photos .
Here are some more photos to see the difference.

Kyle.

[J_Speegle]

Anyone have an original out and apart with pictures?

[JD]

I'll look later today, away for a few hours it will probably be after 9pm EST today.

[DC-DD]

Jeffs picture
See the arrow you will see a small point on the end of the 1\4 20 stud that little point you can feel with your finger . when i was judging cars i would reach under and feel for it on the back of the pods.
Every original 67 I have had had that point.
We never deducted any points for it I just used it as a gauge as to how many cars had it.


Dominic

[JD]

the first two images were what was on the car I had, early '67 no screws in the front filler plate.

the second two were for sale on E-pay I think... it seems to have an extra hole.

[J_Speegle]

Thanks JD. With enough digging and sharing I think we can draw some conclusions and in turn help out the OP

[Kyle]

Thanks for everyone.
So to be correct my guage pod needs need to be no screws in the center face plate?
Anyone have photos of an early guage pod please?
Thanks Kyle.

[JD]

This one has a piece of Velcro stuck in the center, that shouldn't be there, it was holding an emblem.   It looks the same just no holes.

[cboss70]

Not that they cant be changed but the small bracket that's used to attach the pod to the dash metal is stamped/cut different and is pretty clearly different between the repro's versus the originals. Just another reference point when comparing the two.

[Richstang]

While I don't have many close up photos, my photo files support Jeff's estimate (when the face plate with screws start appearing).
It appears they start sometime in the 200s VIN range. In the 300s I'm starting to see the screws on the face plates.

Just remember cars were not completed in VIN order, so you have to look at the dates.
It DOES seem that Kyle's car would have the screws as it was completed in late January.
This is only my guess based on my current collection of photos.
It does not cover all '67's and includes some that have been restored.

[JD]

^^^ Yes that is what I suggested above in reply #15