shelby # 1444 ?, one in chicago, race car

[FL SAAC]

Ill say it and say it again, you da man !

   427Heaven,
       You are correct , the class NEVER existed in NHRA . The F/X class stopped at C F/X where the smaller engine , heavier cars were. SEVERAL problems with the way the car is presented and they are all associated by "someone" guessing . As I mentioned on the first go around , these are the issues that keep this from being a "period" F/X car. Fuel injection, straight axles , fiberglass "tilt" front ends and no front brakes were ONLY allowed in "A" F/X , NOT the lower classes. This car would have HAD to be in a GAS class as it was modified too much even for ''modified production" . Likely D/Gas because of the cubic inches.
     One benefit of being old is that you were "there" to experience this stuff instead of "read about it"
      Randy

[gt350hr]

  Naw I'm just an old man that doesn't accept "creative history" or assumptions when I know better.

[Coralsnake]

The more the knowledgeable people look at this the less likely it becomes.

The more the less knowledgeable people look it the more plausible it becomes.

[Coralsnake]

And then there seems to be the endless supply of "automotive journalists"

Where did he get that production information?

We really do live in clown world

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/mysterious-1967-shelby-mustang-gt350-surfaces-in-chicago-it-s-been-sitting-for-53-years-178823.html

[98SVT - was 06GT]

More lies than a politician

But this GT350 that was recently uncovered in Chicago might just be the rarest of them all. Simply because it is unique. This Shelby has been sitting in storage since 1969 and, because it doesn't have a VIN, no one has been able to identify it so far. Not confirmed as a GTanything.

The info that's been uncovered so far suggests that this modified muscle car is a 1967 Shelby GT350. There's no VIN to confirm it, but the big amount of original parts that are still on the car hint that it was built by Shelby in 1967. Should read parts that have now been added to the car. Original photos show many missing parts that have now mysteriously appeared

But here's the interesting bit. This GT350 was converted into a drag racer. And not just any run-of-the-mill, late 1960s dragster, but some sort of experimental vehicle with the engine pushed farther back than usual. Farther than the regulations allowed at the time, which might explain why it was retired into storage in 1969. "Experimental" did they have a setback rule? The set back looks pretty normal for the 60s. Retired at 2 years old - with all that rust?

Yup. this car was never completely finished and never raced. But it was close to hitting the quarter-mile with loads of high-end racing parts and an authentic Shelby roll bar. Was it an experimental drag car put together by Carroll himself? If never ran why is a number on it? A new hook for the fish to bite on - I'm certain in true Gas Monkey garage verbage this will be called a Shelby race car from here on as is Rawlings "Shelby" convertible he built.

Not very likely, but that's something Dennis Collins, who recently purchased the GT350, is looking to find out. But the guys who sold it to him suspect that this Shelby might be the GT350 no. 1444, a car that's been missing since 1967, shortly after it was produced. They KNOW it's not 1444 and have admitted to that fact in their postings on this forum. The sheetmetal dates and trans VIN don't agree - I also suspect the color of 1444 was not white. They also called the past owner a hoarder who had lots of parts from many cars. We know the trans was never installed in this shell in 67 why should we think the roll bar is anything more than a loose part that was lying around - I bought one for $20 and stuck in a 65 Fastback I built.

[gt350hr]

    All valid points.

[deathsled]

More lies than a politician

But this GT350 that was recently uncovered in Chicago might just be the rarest of them all. Simply because it is unique. This Shelby has been sitting in storage since 1969 and, because it doesn't have a VIN, no one has been able to identify it so far. Not confirmed as a GTanything.

The info that's been uncovered so far suggests that this modified muscle car is a 1967 Shelby GT350. There's no VIN to confirm it, but the big amount of original parts that are still on the car hint that it was built by Shelby in 1967. Should read parts that have now been added to the car. Original photos show many missing parts that have now mysteriously appeared

But here's the interesting bit. This GT350 was converted into a drag racer. And not just any run-of-the-mill, late 1960s dragster, but some sort of experimental vehicle with the engine pushed farther back than usual. Farther than the regulations allowed at the time, which might explain why it was retired into storage in 1969. "Experimental" did they have a setback rule? The set back looks pretty normal for the 60s. Retired at 2 years old - with all that rust?

Yup. this car was never completely finished and never raced. But it was close to hitting the quarter-mile with loads of high-end racing parts and an authentic Shelby roll bar. Was it an experimental drag car put together by Carroll himself? If never ran why is a number on it? A new hook for the fish to bite on - I'm certain in true Gas Monkey garage verbage this will be called a Shelby race car from here on as is Rawlings "Shelby" convertible he built.

Not very likely, but that's something Dennis Collins, who recently purchased the GT350, is looking to find out. But the guys who sold it to him suspect that this Shelby might be the GT350 no. 1444, a car that's been missing since 1967, shortly after it was produced. They KNOW it's not 1444 and have admitted to that fact in their postings on this forum. The sheetmetal dates and trans VIN don't agree - I also suspect the color of 1444 was not white. They also called the past owner a hoarder who had lots of parts from many cars. We know the trans was never installed in this shell in 67 why should we think the roll bar is anything more than a loose part that was lying around - I bought one for $20 and stuck in a 65 Fastback I built.

The level of detective work needed on these cars can be aggravating, but it can also be fun in a way.  Great summation using inductive reasoning.

[roddster]

  He's got a nice, customized Mustang there.

[557]

  He's got a nice, customized Mustang there.

.  Half of one....

[shelbydoug]

It's 18 degrees here so I'm looking for stuff to do inside. What's your excuse?

[Side-Oilers]

And then there seems to be the endless supply of "automotive journalists"



All it takes is a phone camera, a goofy expression, the demeanor of a three-year-old, and there's today's typical "car expert/journalist."

[gt350hr]

  "Never completely finished and never raced" That is some valuable history there.  All this to try and increase the value of this modified wreck.

[FL SAAC]

Mr R

Like we previously stated:

So after viewing the video production and reading all the comments, the only vin number is on a transmission?

If that is so, we can summarize this find in one sentence :

There is truly no way to authenticate this car.

[427hunter]

  "Never completely finished and never raced" That is some valuable history there.  All this to try and increase the value of this modified wreck.

100% Randy.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Like we previously stated:

So after viewing the video production and reading all the comments, the only vin number is on a transmission?

If that is so, we can summarize this find in one sentence :

There is truly no way to authenticate this car.

Only the trans is verifiable - and he indicates in his earlier posts that the 67 Registrar has told him it's out of a later built car than this shell and that the car it is from was not white.