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Started by silverton_ford, May 15, 2018, 05:40:22 PM

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shelbydoug

Quote from: Chad on May 17, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Hey everyone.  I purchased 558 from the original owner, via Craig Conley, in 2008.  I have a ton of pictures of the car in its original state before I sold it to Bobby.  I can tell you with 100% certainty that the car is NOT originally a side pipe car.  Also the car had both original plates on the car.  One of the plates hangs on my office wall to this day and the other one went with the car when I sold it to Bobby.  If there are two plates on the car now one is probably original and the other one is a repo.

What exhaust did it have originally? Did it have the '66 GT350 type exhaust on it? Full length with headers?
The last batch of cars were made that way?
68 GT350 Lives Matter!

Chad

Quote from: shelbydoug on May 18, 2018, 06:33:18 AM
Quote from: Chad on May 17, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Hey everyone.  I purchased 558 from the original owner, via Craig Conley, in 2008.  I have a ton of pictures of the car in its original state before I sold it to Bobby.  I can tell you with 100% certainty that the car is NOT originally a side pipe car.  Also the car had both original plates on the car.  One of the plates hangs on my office wall to this day and the other one went with the car when I sold it to Bobby.  If there are two plates on the car now one is probably original and the other one is a repo.

What exhaust did it have originally? Did it have the '66 GT350 type exhaust on it? Full length with headers?
The last batch of cars were made that way?


Yes you are correct.  66 exhaust with headers.  I assume that is Ford Factory GT exhaust, less the headers?

sfm5

Interesting... I thought they all came with the side exiting exhaust. Is this the only '65 to come with rear exiting exhaust?
65 GT350

Bob Gaines

Quote from: sfm5 on May 18, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Interesting... I thought they all came with the side exiting exhaust. Is this the only '65 to come with rear exiting exhaust?
There are other cars on record that had the rear exhaust . It had to do with the nose level being too high. In the states where SA was getting push back cars that had headers and factory Non GT exhaust (like 66) were delivered to solve the problem.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

sfm5

Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 18, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on May 18, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Interesting... I thought they all came with the side exiting exhaust. Is this the only '65 to come with rear exiting exhaust?
There are other cars on record that had the rear exhaust . It had to do with the nose level being too high. In the states where SA was getting push back cars that had headers and factory Non GT exhaust (like 66) were delivered to solve the problem.

Never knew that, thanks Bob. That makes sense, especially being a very late car, as I have read a number of accounts from original owners where they were getting hassled by the police over the noise levels.
65 GT350

Dkutz

Quote from: doublemyv on May 16, 2018, 08:00:24 PM
5s444 was also sold by Warren Anderson Ford on Nov. 10 1965, and the original plates are still with the car.  I guess the DMV handles both cars on the same day ?   Original plate is RRW833.  What a coincidence.    I tried to upload the photo of my car with the original plate, but for some reason ( my file size is 449kb ) the upload folder is full.    Mark

Did 444 come with side exhaust or rear exhaust?


PaulD

I have a late 65 delivered to Hayward Ford that was bought new with the rear exiting exhaust, according to the original owner. I have a picture of the car from early 66 showing the exhaust that I will attempt to post. I am pretty sure it is the standard 65 exhaust with glass packs just exiting the rear of the car, not a factory non GT exhaust. I believe the Shelby parts catalog shows a similar exhaust.


Chad


Bob Gaines

Quote from: PaulD on May 23, 2018, 07:46:22 PM
I have a late 65 delivered to Hayward Ford that was bought new with the rear exiting exhaust, according to the original owner. I have a picture of the car from early 66 showing the exhaust that I will attempt to post. I am pretty sure it is the standard 65 exhaust with glass packs just exiting the rear of the car, not a factory non GT exhaust. I believe the Shelby parts catalog shows a similar exhaust.
FYI the standard 65 exhaust and the non GT exhaust would be the same thing. There was no such thing as a 65 standard exhaust with glass packs. Other then the side exhaust a Glass pack system would be aftermarket.The system in the catalog had glass packs.  Just in case you are not aware the GT exhaust has the tips coming out holes made into the rear valance .The non GT exhaust has turn down tips that end at the rear valance. Other then the tips the rest of the exhaust is the same between the two systems from the factory. The exhaust in the catalog would most likely be one that would be added after a side exhaust car was found to be too loud,police problems etc.after it was delivered. That is if the Dealer didn't just have a muffler shop weld one up like what came in the catalog which would most likely been cheaper and faster. Another possibility would be that the  side exhaust car was modified beginning at where the side exhaust glass packs end and a over the rear axle pipe added. This would not be something that was added at SA. The factory non GT duel exhaust would be what was on the cars when they were delivered to SA. There would be no logical reason for SA to spend extra money on a different exhaust when a perfectly good one was already installed on the body when it came in. All bets are off after the car is delivered to the dealer however.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

PaulD

I should have said standard 65 GT350 exhaust with glass packs. My car has the holes in the floor pan for the glass pack mounts, but had no signs of any mounts at the leaf springs. So Hayward Ford must of replaced the side pipes with rear pipes keeping the glass packs forward. Seems a little strange, but I don't have anything other than the original owners statement that it had a rear exiting exhaust when he purchased it and a picture of the car a few month old still wearing the blue dots. :)

acman63

These are the cars that recieved special exhaust  aka rear exit stock hipo exh.   according to Shelby records


207
227
241
309
320
329
371
395
397
401
414
419
421
422
425
426
428
429
421
430
448
450
453
460
465
467
481
483
485
503
506
513
542
555
556
SAAC Concours Chairman

Owner Shelby Parts and Restoration Since 1977

SAAC original first year member

acman63

Here are the cars that were changed to rear exhaust due to state laws. The parts were furnished by SA and the warranty work was done by the dealer.

030
069
090
240
293
324
372
474
526
SAAC Concours Chairman

Owner Shelby Parts and Restoration Since 1977

SAAC original first year member

Dkutz

Quote from: acman63 on May 24, 2018, 02:07:01 PM
These are the cars that recieved special exhaust  aka rear exit stock hipo exh.   according to Shelby records


207
227
241
309
320
329
371
395
397
401
414
419
421
422
425
426
428
429
421
430
448
450
453
460
465
467
481
483
485
503
506
513
542
555
556

Funny I don't see 558 on that list.  Although the early picture of the car shows no side exit, and Original owners son doesn't think it had side exhaust.  Wierd.  Maybe Lloyd switched it early in its life?

Chad

558 was not switch from side exhaust to rear exit exhaust because there were no holes in the floor pans for the side exhaust  I would post pictures but I can not figure out how to do it.  It says that something is full.