Dennis Collins now claims his 67 mustang is 1477 - Dave?

[shelbydoug]

Bret,

Unfortunately he would, and he did exactly that.

Cheap shot Thomas. NO ONE intentionally did ANYTHING to you. You just don't like the way the narrative is going against YOUR interpretation.

In the world of psychology, you have what some would describe as a self reinforcing delusion.

The door is always open for you to leave. I'm sure that you will and sure that you will be back when there is something that you need us for?

[427hunter]

I've sat back and kept quiet for a couple years and listened to all of the conspiracy theories and bashing from so many, including some of you guys....

To the ones who helped me and we're supportive, I thank you very much. Every email and text helped me to get one step closer to solving the cars origin (1477).

Truth be told, When I first discovered this car and brought it home to Detroit from Chicago,, I found the transmission VIN stamp which was caked in grease & dirt. I immediately contacted Dave Mathews that day with as found car pictures and also with the VIN sequence (from the trans).

He knowingly mislead me as to the true identity of the transmission was. His words were that it was from a late '67 build and that it was from a Green GT350. Stated that all I had was a Old cut up Mustang.
Also, to add to his dishonesty, he fabricated a long story of how the green car had been stolen and recovered minus the driveline. He advised me that I'd be best for me  to remain silent about the car and the transmission because it could "open up a can of worms".

He warned me that I could be opening myself up to legality issues because of the stolen status of the transmission.....  I have all of the original emails and conversations to back up everything I've said for anyone wanting to doubt me.

Also, for the doubters... reread my original posts regarding the car, the date codes that I shared and also the additional part and panel stamps DO in fact match with the 1477 build dates. It's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you haven't seen the car in person. There have now been respected and knowledgeable Shelby experts who agree as to the cars true origin. (1477)

Had he been honest from the start, this could have been an amazing find for the SAAC group as I came here to you guys first for help. I laid every piece of data out there for you openly and honestly.
Unfortunately for myself, We sold the car at an exact break even amount and it quiet honestly wasn't much at all. Trust me. My cousin and myself wanted the car to go to someone who had the horsepower to take it to the next level, and hopefully someone with the ability to treat this car with the respect it deserves. I no longer own the car, so I have zero to gain by stating the facts. I'm not angry at Dave or the group, just extremely disappointed in how things were handled.

As owners and caretakers of such a rare brand, I feel that it's your duty & obligation to try and find the true history of existing and also missing units when they come to light. I know that the car was butchered, but had you taken the time to help, rather than bash my attempts, this could have been a completely different outcome.

So this post will most likely get taken down and deleted very soon because it states some facts that some will find offensive, but I'm posting the facts as they happened. I feel that the group deserves to hear how Dave handled this situation. I completely understand the concept of protecting the breed from fishing expeditions to match VIN's, but this was blatant. I now wish that I had posted the trans numbers from the start.

So you are saying you did not buy parts from different people and fake the car to look like a survivor shelby?   

Having a Shelby transmission does not make the car a shelby, but since you are hear and claiming Dave misled you, what are the sheet metal dates? show us the construction differences from San Jose.

Ball is in your court, all the evidence we have at this point is you threw a bunch of parts at a mustang race car from a non existent class and made it look like a 67 shelby: oh and if the stamp is real a transmission from 1477.   

[Thomas]

You both need help.

No cheap shots and nothing delusional when the facts as stated are 100% true.

I gain not a single thing, not one dime by telling the truth in this matter.

The car is real, you will all be eating crow when the process of inspection is finished...

Dave & I both know what was said and what happened... I have nothing else to say on the matter.

All the best gentlemen...

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Truth be told, When I first discovered this car and brought it home to Detroit from Chicago,, I found the transmission VIN stamp which was caked in grease & dirt. I immediately contacted Dave Mathews that day with as found car pictures and also with the VIN sequence (from the trans).

My question why not Marti first? You had a Ford number not a Shelby number. Seems like you were hoping Shelby and going after that narrative from the start.

Without the front clip "the process of inspection" can't even begin much less come to a conclusion in an LAX hanger.

[427hunter]

You both need help.

No cheap shots and nothing delusional when the facts as stated are 100% true.

I gain not a single thing, not one dime by telling the truth in this matter.

The car is real, you will all be eating crow when the process of inspection is finished...

Dave & I both know what was said and what happened... I have nothing else to say on the matter.

All the best gentlemen...

You really can't just answer two question?

Did you buy parts from different people to make the car to look like a survivor shelby?   

What are the sheet metal dates?

[FL SAAC]

https://www.facebook.com/343470002343007/posts/5575263239163631/?sfnsn=mo

[silverton_ford]

https://www.motortrend.com/features/missing-mustangs-an-afx-1967-shelby-gt-350-with-amnesia/?fbclid=IwAR3fzbXAjW_Ut9WVLNh_kGmDQAxxtyYzRcMd4BNaFdQ7c_T3JLweFda_EHE

[Bill]

https://www.motortrend.com/features/missing-mustangs-an-afx-1967-shelby-gt-350-with-amnesia/?fbclid=IwAR3fzbXAjW_Ut9WVLNh_kGmDQAxxtyYzRcMd4BNaFdQ7c_T3JLweFda_EHE

Out of the whole article, I find the following quote to be interesting:

"Thomas is putting out an APB on the history of his Mustang. Due to the fact that the front apron has been removed for the straight axle, we're left with no Shelby VIN to confirm the car. Thomas brought in both Randy DeLisio and Dave Mathews, both 1967 Shelby historians, who confirmed the shell is in fact a 1967 Shelby, but which exact Shelby (of the 1,174 cars built) remains a mystery."

Bill

[98SVT - was 06GT]

....... both Randy DeLisio and Dave Mathews, both 1967 Shelby historians, who confirmed the shell is in fact a 1967 Shelby,

I'd say Dave Mathews has a big payday coming. Pretty sure he only confirmed that the Ford number on the trans matched one of the cars sent to Shelby American - not that it was this shell.

[A-Snake]

BS begins at about the 24:40 minute mark. Be sure you have your boots on before watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OhH_mYzVMg

[98SVT - was 06GT]

https://www.facebook.com/343470002343007/posts/5575263239163631/?sfnsn=mo

I see the FakeBook experts have signed on to it's long time SA history - even though it's only months old.

[shelbydoug]

It just amazes me how these snowflakes just appear out of nowhere and just as suddenly disappear in the sunlight.

[KR500]

BS begins at about the 24:40 minute mark. Be sure you have your boots on before watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OhH_mYzVMg

Boots, You mean hip wader's! Oh and the smell!

[TA Coupe]

....... both Randy DeLisio and Dave Mathews, both 1967 Shelby historians, who confirmed the shell is in fact a 1967 Shelby,

I'd say Dave Mathews has a big payday coming. Pretty sure he only confirmed that the Ford number on the trans matched one of the cars sent to Shelby American - not that it was this shell.

Can anyone say, defamation of character lawsuit

          Roy

[Cobrask8]

https://www.facebook.com/343470002343007/posts/5575263239163631/?sfnsn=mo

I see the FakeBook experts have signed on to it's long time SA history - even though it's only months old.

There was another thread on a vintage Ford page where the car was heavilly de-bunked. I was one of the nay-sayers asking for the truth. I even called out since the car has no VIN or title, you could call it anything you want, including an Impala. But, just like this new thread, too many new experts. The thread that I had posted on was completely removed. I guess the original poster did not like the truth.