The 5 1967 shelby gt500 with 427

[Bigfoot]

Was a blue. I think Brittany blue 427 500 at SAAC Pocono.
Long Island car. Nice guy.
Driven to the show.
Nice guy.
Parked near us in the garages.

427 had been in the car a long long LONG time.

[shelbydoug]

Why would anyone?Its not factory ,just an engine swap.

The only thing wrong about the engine swap is the BS story that many are compelled to spin to justify theirs as factory. The swap has been done many times in the past ,present and most likely future because it is the best bad ass alternative to factory stock on a 67 GT500

.    What I meant was why bother to keep track of the BS story 427 cars???

As far as keeping track of the stories of individual cars, in the case of SAAC, we call that the SAAC Registry.

The nature of these cars makes it necessary to have documentation on them. Fortunately the '67 Shelby's are well documented with invoices and the Marti reports tend to agree with that.

Speculators will always be around and that will never change. We all hope to find a 'real barn find' that we can afford but even there a buyer needs to be prepared with information to be able to confirm themselves without a lot of outside help, what they are looking at.

The current conditions just really set the stage for swindles. They were probably always around. There is more information now that reduces the risk but one even needs to know how and where to find the info.


I suppose it's a little like the modern equivalent of 'panning for gold'? You need to know the difference from 'fool's gold' and if you actually find it, you want to keep it secret and not start a panic and get over run by it yourself?

The real finds are never going to get reported to "Barn Finds' and even if they do, will wind up going to auction like the Cobra and Ferrari did anyway.


The fun of the hunt is still there, but it's kind of an academic one now but  lightening still strikes, just not usually in the same place twice though?

[427heaven]

I don't think anyone really cares what cars have what engines in them,if it has a Nugget in there
more power to them. They all can be changed out in a couple of hours to get that originality thing going, but if they like that feeling of getting your head bent back towards the back seat and tire smoke billowing from the car with an exhaust note of a f 14 at wide open throttle the 427 fills that void, stories are just that... stories.  up

[FL SAAC]

well said + 1

I don't think anyone really cares what cars have what engines in them,if it has a Nugget in there
more power to them. They all can be changed out in a couple of hours to get that originality thing going, but if they like that feeling of getting your head bent back towards the back seat and tire smoke billowing from the car with an exhaust note of a f 14 at wide open throttle the 427 fills that void, stories are just that... stories.  up

[gt350hr]

"Notched/plated shock towers"? This is the first I've heard of that.

That would be an A/FX modification, no? What class would that car be running in? Randy. You there? HELP! 

An A/FX Falcon, a '69 Boss '9, sure, but a '67 Shelby in a stock class? Huh? Hey Dave? Is this author mixing his metaphors?

I don't believe that was a SA modification but a subsequent owner mod.

+1 SAI didn't do that shock tower modification.  A 427 powered '67 was ONLY legal in the ( now defunct) AHRA and was probably the main reason so few were built. NHRA would never accept the car in a "stock" or "super stock"  class so it would have had tun in a "gas" class where it would not have been competitive as produced. By '67 A/FX cars were "funny cars" running in the 8 second ET range ruling out a car like this.

[Shelby6t5 Mike HHI, SC]

Was a blue. I think Brittany blue 427 500 at SAAC Pocono.
Long Island car. Nice guy.
Driven to the show.
Nice guy.
Parked near us in the garages.

427 had been in the car a long long LONG time.

Know the car well. I just wish he would stop telling the story. He has had it since he was in his late teens as I recall. No documentation. Nice car.

M.

[shelbydoug]

Was a blue. I think Brittany blue 427 500 at SAAC Pocono.
Long Island car. Nice guy.
Driven to the show.
Nice guy.
Parked near us in the garages.

427 had been in the car a long long LONG time.

Know the car well. I just wish he would stop telling the story. He has had it since he was in his late teens as I recall. No documentation. Nice car.

M.

That would be Rick Zappia's car. First time I saw it was about 1975 at a SOA meeting in CT. It was silver then.



He was on here before the crash. I haven't seen him come back yet.

Yes, a nice one. Both the owner and the car.



The origin of the 427 in it is pure speculation but appears to be a '67 dated side oiler. Maybe a crate engine from the day?

The car has other indications that it was "rebuilt" along the way. Maybe in '67 or '68. One of those indications is an all fiberglass louvered hood on an early car that shouldn't have one.


As with all big block "Mustangs", you don't want to get stuck in bumper to bumper "NY bridge type" traffic. The thing will probably melt.

Rick's story was that he got a "Police escort" from LI to Pocono for that convention.

It has a colorful background and there in lies a tale?



There have been more then a few try to buy the car from him. I do know of some who have tried. I know where the number is. You don't want to know. It's a very expensive car. Rightfully so by me.

[oldcanuck]

Guys,

Of the 3 known legitimate examples, are they in private hands or in a museum somewhere ?

Thanks,
Bob

[Bob Gaines]

Guys,

Of the 3 known legitimate examples, are they in private hands or in a museum somewhere ?

Thanks,
Bob

All in private hands although one of the owners has a car museum .

[shelbydoug]

I like 427's too, but I'm not entirely sure of the value of a 427 vs. the 428 unless you intend to win Lemans and have the bank roll of "the Deuce" himself?


The '68 NHRA Winter Nationals had the 428cj's dominating. Not 427's.

I think that if you want to disqualify the 428's as incompetent, you need to explain the success of them at that event first.

All of the three 427 '67s are privately owned and at times may be on display at museums. That's kind of like a safe dry storage for the winter for them with free security. Unless you are talking about something like the Smithsonian in DC, by definition, museums are private entities generally with an admission fee to get in.

An example of that really is the Simeon Museum in Philly. In that case, "the Doctor" simply has his own museum.

[BGlover67]

Was a blue. I think Brittany blue 427 500 at SAAC Pocono.
Long Island car. Nice guy.
Driven to the show.
Nice guy.
Parked near us in the garages.

427 had been in the car a long long LONG time.

Know the car well. I just wish he would stop telling the story. He has had it since he was in his late teens as I recall. No documentation. Nice car.

M.

That would be Rick Zappia's car. First time I saw it was about 1975 at a SOA meeting in CT. It was silver then.



He was on here before the crash. I haven't seen him come back yet.

Yes, a nice one. Both the owner and the car.



The origin of the 427 in it is pure speculation but appears to be a '67 dated side oiler. Maybe a crate engine from the day?

The car has other indications that it was "rebuilt" along the way. Maybe in '67 or '68. One of those indications is an all fiberglass louvered hood on an early car that shouldn't have one.


As with all big block "Mustangs", you don't want to get stuck in bumper to bumper "NY bridge type" traffic. The thing will probably melt.

Rick's story was that he got a "Police escort" from LI to Pocono for that convention.

It has a colorful background and there in lies a tale?



There have been more then a few try to buy the car from him. I do know of some who have tried. I know where the number is. You don't want to know. It's a very expensive car. Rightfully so by me.

Doug,

Rick went by 'Captain Pickadilly' or something like that I believe?  Great guy to speak with, lot's of fun.  He was also convinced his car was used in this original Shelby ad:

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Did they cut the towers to clear a cammer? I think the biggest reason SA didn't offer a 67 drag car was because Les Richey was killed in 66. His Performance Associates built all the Dragon Snakes and GT350 drag cars for Shelby in his Glendora Shop. He also is the one who prepped Gas Ronda's cars. His downtown Motors Galaxie & Tbolt and his Russ Davis Tbolt and Mustangs.

[FL SAAC]

Captricklilpinky

Was a blue. I think Brittany blue 427 500 at SAAC Pocono.
Long Island car. Nice guy.
Driven to the show.
Nice guy.
Parked near us in the garages.

427 had been in the car a long long LONG time.

Know the car well. I just wish he would stop telling the story. He has had it since he was in his late teens as I recall. No documentation. Nice car.

M.

That would be Rick Zappia's car. First time I saw it was about 1975 at a SOA meeting in CT. It was silver then.



He was on here before the crash. I haven't seen him come back yet.

Yes, a nice one. Both the owner and the car.



The origin of the 427 in it is pure speculation but appears to be a '67 dated side oiler. Maybe a crate engine from the day?

The car has other indications that it was "rebuilt" along the way. Maybe in '67 or '68. One of those indications is an all fiberglass louvered hood on an early car that shouldn't have one.


As with all big block "Mustangs", you don't want to get stuck in bumper to bumper "NY bridge type" traffic. The thing will probably melt.

Rick's story was that he got a "Police escort" from LI to Pocono for that convention.

It has a colorful background and there in lies a tale?



There have been more then a few try to buy the car from him. I do know of some who have tried. I know where the number is. You don't want to know. It's a very expensive car. Rightfully so by me.

Doug,

Rick went by 'Captain Pickadilly' or something like that I believe?  Great guy to speak with, lot's of fun.  He was also convinced his car was used in this original Shelby ad:

[gt350bp]

I think the 68 CJ's were dominant because of the index they were running on and the drivers. Remember, this is handicap racing once you get out of the class runoffs.

Don
gt350bp

[BGlover67]

Captricklilpinky

Was a blue. I think Brittany blue 427 500 at SAAC Pocono.
Long Island car. Nice guy.
Driven to the show.
Nice guy.
Parked near us in the garages.

427 had been in the car a long long LONG time.

Know the car well. I just wish he would stop telling the story. He has had it since he was in his late teens as I recall. No documentation. Nice car.

M.

That would be Rick Zappia's car. First time I saw it was about 1975 at a SOA meeting in CT. It was silver then.



He was on here before the crash. I haven't seen him come back yet.

Yes, a nice one. Both the owner and the car.



The origin of the 427 in it is pure speculation but appears to be a '67 dated side oiler. Maybe a crate engine from the day?

The car has other indications that it was "rebuilt" along the way. Maybe in '67 or '68. One of those indications is an all fiberglass louvered hood on an early car that shouldn't have one.


As with all big block "Mustangs", you don't want to get stuck in bumper to bumper "NY bridge type" traffic. The thing will probably melt.

Rick's story was that he got a "Police escort" from LI to Pocono for that convention.

It has a colorful background and there in lies a tale?



There have been more then a few try to buy the car from him. I do know of some who have tried. I know where the number is. You don't want to know. It's a very expensive car. Rightfully so by me.

Doug,

Rick went by 'Captain Pickadilly' or something like that I believe?  Great guy to speak with, lot's of fun.  He was also convinced his car was used in this original Shelby ad:

That's it!