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Sympathetic restoration for driveability

Started by mickmate, December 22, 2022, 10:22:37 AM

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mickmate

#15
The coil spring saddle with rubber bushing also has holes in it for rubber pads. The GT350 has no holes or pads in the saddle. I assume that this is correct and original. Do you guys have any thoughts on what to do now?

Trying to attach a picture.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: mickmate on February 01, 2023, 05:23:19 PM
The coil spring saddle with rubber bushing also has holes in it for rubber pads. The GT350 has no holes or pads in the saddle. I assume that this is correct and original. Do you guys have any thoughts on what to do now?

Only the service spring perches made in the 70's came with the holes for the rubber pad. You will not notice any difference if you run the rubber pad or choose not to run it IMO. It is up to you and what your expectations are for the car what you want to run. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

J_Speegle

Quote from: mickmate on February 01, 2023, 05:23:19 PM
Do you guys have any thoughts on what to do now?

As Bob wrote its up to you and how you want the represent the car. If your going to call it restored then you will likely want to correct this as well as another details if your doing a nice driver then your efforts and choices may be less. You can always remove the pads, weld up the little holes and refinish the perches
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

mickmate

This is only a question as I can't find the original spec rubber bushings. If I replace them with rubber-bushed assemblies I like the idea of plug-welding the holes. Appreciate the input as always.

mickmate

#19

Trying to see if an image will go through. The top front shock bushings are a piece of cooling hose as can be seen by the twine reinforcing. Is that original spec or has someone got creative?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/r9RvKRySD53QR7RJ7

Bob Gaines

Quote from: mickmate on April 24, 2023, 11:59:38 AM

Trying to see if an image will go through. The top front shock bushings are a piece of cooling hose as can be seen by the twine reinforcing. Is that original spec or has someone got creative?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/r9RvKRySD53QR7RJ7
That is not original. Someone has gotten creative.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bill

Quote from: mickmate on April 24, 2023, 11:59:38 AM

Trying to see if an image will go through. The top front shock bushings are a piece of cooling hose as can be seen by the twine reinforcing. Is that original spec or has someone got creative?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/r9RvKRySD53QR7RJ7

Nick,

    As Bob has already stated above, not original...You might want to post more pictures so we can see what you are working with, as some of what you may try to duplicate, will not be correct.

Bill
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mickmate

I thought adjustable shocks were an aftermarket race car addition. These factory shocks are cool. They are FoMoCo marked and adjustable!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/appVTnDSgWpX4GW37
I can't find original spec FoMoCo shocks anywhere, they are all aftermarket. I certainly can't find parts for them. I was going to steal some rubbers out of a new pair of Monroe's but they are a different eye length and diameter so I doubt will work.

J_Speegle

Quote from: mickmate on April 24, 2023, 06:09:24 PM
I can't find original spec FoMoCo shocks anywhere, they are all aftermarket. I certainly can't find parts for them. I was going to steal some rubbers out of a new pair of Monroe's but they are a different eye length and diameter so I doubt will work.

Reproductions of both front and rears were available. Have not checked recently

Dan Patch was the one making them. He was also rebuilding originals.
https://dansshocks.com/spiral-shocks/


Here is just one of a number of past threads on the subject, found using the search feature and the words "adjustable shocks"


https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1667.msg56311#msg56311

https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=12770.msg106727#msg106727

https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=18518.msg155862#msg155862




Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

mickmate

Thanks Jeff, I will make an attempt to use the search engine on here.
It looks like these are pretty close to working. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ens-9-8107g

J_Speegle

Quote from: mickmate on April 24, 2023, 09:20:20 PM
Thanks Jeff, I will make an attempt to use the search engine on here.
It looks like these are pretty close to working. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ens-9-8107g

Originals would not have been Polyurethane not hourglass shape nor have the printing on the ends of the bushing. Just depends on the look your going for.
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

mickmate

Dan got right back to me and has the original spec ones for $20 per. Thanks much for the link.

mickmate

The shock bushing install had to be done correctly, I ripped the end off a bushing before figuring that out. I programmed and plasma cut a plate which is effectively a modified washer to push the bushing in over the shaft. Good progress recently with the front end all selectively restored where necessary. The links to all the factory coatings and the write-up on them were invaluable.
The car is back on its wheels which makes them a lot easier to move. I think replacing the kinked and squashed fuel line is the next job. Those little twist clips look like an education.
The differential has some ugly additional welding on the axle tube and a rear shock with a bent pin on the same side. I'll post some pictures when they load.

mickmate

I'm weighing my available options on window seal beltline sweeps felts replacement. There's a lot of terms used to describe these parts huh.
Also door and trunk rubbers and seals.
I've found Scott Drake, ACP, eClassics, Collectors auto supply, Steelerubber.
Have you guys used any of these and are they comparable to original quality and fit?

CharlesTurner

Do they really need to be replaced?  If you're trying to keep the car original looking, NOS door sweepers/seals would be best.  The correct style fastback trunk seal is near impossible to find as NOS.

Like mentioned earlier in this thread, it's a slippery slope on how far to go here.  Parts that have deteriorated and no longer functional, makes sense to replace with either NOS or good used OEM parts.


Quote from: mickmate on November 17, 2023, 02:35:21 PM
I'm weighing my available options on window seal beltline sweeps felts replacement. There's a lot of terms used to describe these parts huh.
Also door and trunk rubbers and seals.
I've found Scott Drake, ACP, eClassics, Collectors auto supply, Steelerubber.
Have you guys used any of these and are they comparable to original quality and fit?
Charles Turner
MCA/SAAC Judge