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The Black Ghost Hemi Challenger at Mecum

Started by daltondavid, January 07, 2023, 03:16:38 PM

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FL SAAC

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 14, 2023, 07:26:38 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
not to take away from the ghost,  but this 70 Poncho just sold for one million dollars plus fees
I'm sure one of our members here will be real happy as he has one of the 8 RA IV 4 speed cars made. He has it in Boyton Beach.

+ 1. he should go after this one also
I saw the orbit orange car sell for 1 mil. It was an auto. My friend's car is a 4 speed. So I wonder what is the added value of a 4 speed? Red/red interior/ white top and restored right by the best. I wonder if he will chime in? He already owns a 7 figure Shelby(67 vert).

agreed 4 speed should pull more, but it's not for sale

also "silence is golden" is his motto.....
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love. ~
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus

"Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

Side-Oilers

I'd take the money and run, on anything close to $1mil for a GTO. (Or even $500k.)  Yeah, cool and rare and so on. But, I'd prefer a real 289 Cobra for my million or so.  ;D

As for the Black Ghost...cool story and a significant car. But, I'm guessing $760k hammer price.
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

FL SAAC

#17
Quote from: Side-Oilers on January 18, 2023, 04:43:37 PM
I'd take the money and run, on anything close to $1mil for a GTO. (Or even $500k.)  Yeah, cool and rare and so on. But, I'd prefer a real 289 Cobra for my million or so.  ;D

As for the Black Ghost...cool story and a significant car. But, I'm guessing $760k hammer price.


B. G. if will certainly be interesting once it comes up on the blocks


show me the money
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love. ~
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus

"Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

Side-Oilers

Any underhood pix of the Black Ghost?   How modified was it it, back in its heyday?
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

SCJSTU

I had the pleasure of parking next to the Black Ghost at Amelia Cars and Coffee 2022
1969 Shelby GT350 convertible 4 speed/ AC
Built Jan 1969 Red/Black

1967 S-Code 4 spd Black/Parchment
2004 Mustang Mach 1
1956 Ford F-100 Big Window 392 Hemi
1957 F-100 Fridge
1963 Falcon Ranchero
1961 Econoline PU
1961 Falcon 2 dr wagon
1970 Challenger R/T vert 4 speed
1970 Chevy Blazer 2WD

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: SCJSTU on February 03, 2023, 10:36:24 PM
I had the pleasure of parking next to the Black Ghost at Amelia Cars and Coffee 2022
You notice the MKII Lincoln is getting the attention. It was Americas most expensive car at the time. I want one......yep still a day 2 guy.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang, 1998 SVT 32V, 1929 Model A Coupe, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

shelbymann1970

Nice pics Stu. The car is making the rounds.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

FL SAAC

get ready for the final act May 12-20, 2023 at Indy
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love. ~
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus

"Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

Special Ed

#23
Having owned 1 of the 23 RT/SE  4-speed pistol grip hemi challengers i can tell u how unique the SPECIAL EDition 1970 dodge challengers are as they were only offered in the new  first and only year  SE 1970 challengers and they are a unique number code in the serial number so they cant be faked. They have a unique top with smaller rear  window in the formal roof and a  overhead console with a unique padded headliner and rally dash with tach and floor console with deluxe seats either leather or houndstooth and deluxe door panels with carpet along the bottom and special  SE emblems inside and outside with the extra chrome trim etc. My car was hemi orange but i had to sell it as part of my devorice settlement for like 26.000 back in 92!!  I since then have owned 3 RT/SE 440 six pack 4 speeds challengers . The black ghost is very special besides being  a black  RT/SE it has the houndstooth white black interior and rimblo wheel  white  RT tail stripe  gator grain top front bumper guards etc. and a GREAT story so look for it to bring big bucks close to Steve Julianos 1970 orange hemi  only sunroof challanger restored with original parts only and it has my set of no-size original nos f-60-15 polyglas gt tires .

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Special Ed on February 04, 2023, 02:13:39 PM
Having owned 1 of the 23 RT/SE  4-speed pistol grip hemi challengers i can tell u how unique the SPECIAL EDition 1970 dodge challengers are as they were only offered in the new  first and only year  SE 1970 challengers and they are a unique number code in the serial number so they cant be faked. They have a unique top with smaller rear  window in the formal roof and a  overhead console with a unique padded headliner and rally dash with tach and floor console with deluxe seats either leather or houndstooth and deluxe door panels with carpet along the bottom and special  SE emblems inside and outside with the extra chrome trim etc. My car was hemi orange but i had to sell it as part of my devorice settlement for like 26.000 back in 92!!  I since then have owned 3 RT/SE 440 six pack 4 speeds challengers . The black ghost is very special besides being  a black  RT/SE it has the houndstooth white black interior and rimblo wheel  white  RT tail stripe  gator grain top front bumper guards etc. and a GREAT story so look for it to bring big bucks close to Steve Julianos 1970 orange hemi  only sunroof challanger restored with original parts only and it has my set of no-size original nos f-60-15 polyglas gt tires .
Ed I owned a 1971 RT SE 440 six pack plum crazy Challenger. Overhead console but IIRC the back window wasn't smaller but had the vinyl roof.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

Side-Oilers

Hemi are great, but I really enjoy a well set-up 440.   Lots of torque and still revs out pretty well. 

I've owned:

'67 Plymouth GTX, all stock, 440/375hp, automatic. All orig.

'70 Challenger R/T, triple-black, 440/375hp 4-speed.  Nut & Bolt Resto.

'70 Charger R/T 440/375 hp, automatic. That was a 95 point concours car. Three build sheets. All orig.

And a '70 Chrysler 300 Hurst, 440/375 hp, automatic.  Rare luxo-beast.

I dig Mopars from the '60s to very early '70s.
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

SCJSTU

I too have had several Mopars.... I dig 70 muscle cars

Currently have a triple black 70 Challenger convertible R/T 4 speed 3.91 sure grip
Color change from green but real R/T
Only made I think 174 verts
1969 Shelby GT350 convertible 4 speed/ AC
Built Jan 1969 Red/Black

1967 S-Code 4 spd Black/Parchment
2004 Mustang Mach 1
1956 Ford F-100 Big Window 392 Hemi
1957 F-100 Fridge
1963 Falcon Ranchero
1961 Econoline PU
1961 Falcon 2 dr wagon
1970 Challenger R/T vert 4 speed
1970 Chevy Blazer 2WD

Special Ed

Gary the SE challenger was only 1 year 1970 the first year challenger built so your car may have had some similar SE option but not a real SE as its coded in the serial number in 1970 only.  I had many mopars back in the 70s GTX  Chargers   cudas  callengers GTS  buick grand sports. lemans 409 chevys corvettes  cougars etc as i liked all muscle cars but i kept some of the fords i owned the longest mainly mustang fastback gt  of all years and  mach 1s boss shelbys torinos   cj verts 68 69 70 71 and even some coupes for a short time.

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Special Ed on February 05, 2023, 12:14:55 AM
Gary the SE challenger was only 1 year 1970 the first year challenger built so your car may have had some similar SE option but not a real SE as its coded in the serial number in 1970 only.  I had many mopars back in the 70s GTX  Chargers   cudas  callengers GTS  buick grand sports. lemans 409 chevys corvettes  cougars etc as i liked all muscle cars but i kept some of the fords i owned the longest mainly mustang fastback gt  of all years and  mach 1s boss shelbys torinos   cj verts 68 69 70 71 and even some coupes for a short time.
So to be clear Ed you said you owned a RT/SE 1970 Challenger. It was coded as an RT/SE JS29. So if I had a 1971 RT/SE Challenger coded as an RT(R/T factory stripes) even if it had the SE badging and options on it it isn't a SE as well as an RT? So the car in the link below looked exactly like mine except a 4 speed and of course I don't remember in 1980 how my car was vinned other than the V calling it a 440-6 pack. So your car would have been a JS29 for SE but in 71 and  they used JH23 or JS23 for SE(same as hardtop) while the 1971 ordering guide  called it out as "JL21" which is confusing. Either way a RT/SE badged 1971 Challenger is pretty rare.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

DC-DD

#29
Marcus Angel open house last week .
Probably the coolest car there.
Hemi Challener conv. 4spd car .