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“Z” stamps on ‘67 VIN plates

Started by Richstang, July 07, 2018, 01:40:49 PM

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Bob Gaines

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Quote from: greekz on July 27, 2018, 10:29:17 PM
Quote from: Road Reptile on July 26, 2018, 08:32:25 PM
The state does not count the "Z" AS PART OF THE VIN.In case anyone was curious. Hope this helps complete the puzzle.....Just my 2 cents for today
R.R.

Not sure which states you are talking about.  I have California registration records for #2339, from 1976, and the Z is part of the VIN.

Greek
+1. If the Z was used as part of the VIN it is out of the ordinary and most likely a mistake that happened sometime in the past when a car changed ownership or was inspected by a DOT/highway patrol for some reason IMO. The Z is not typically considered or intended to be part of the VIN . Proof of that is to look at how many cars that have tags with a Z that don't have a Z on the title etc.  This is not to say that some where a Z was not mistakenly used as part of a Shelby vin on the title work when it was inspected and the Z was seen stamped randomly on the Shelby tag. I have never heard of a MSO with the Z as part of the VIN . That MSO would have been used the first time the car was registered.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

greekz

Seemed odd to me as well, but strange things happen in California.  Perhaps it was included on paperwork pertaining to the derailment.  I tried to do a DMV search for the ownership history, but California DMV said no records going back to 1967.
SFM 6S1134  '67 GT-350 #2339


BGlover67

A friend of mine sent me this of a screen grab from an episode of 'Counting Cars'.  They had a 67 GT500 featured on it.  Interesting that the VIN plate has a 'Z' considering it's a repop.  (oops, did I say that?)  IMHO


Thanks,
Brian R. Glover
SAAC Carolina's Northern Representative

Richstang

Quote from: TransamEd on July 28, 2018, 10:24:43 AM
Just another theory:
A special Hi-Po (390) version Z-code engine (bay) compatibility had been discussed in V1.0?

Means those chassis after the given date had some extra stiffening or other changed components already build in and were marked to take another engine as replacement .. being considered at the time?
Has a Z car ever been compared to a non Z in all details?

Considering that late 67 cars VINs appear in Passino test car listing for engine tests (incl. the 427)...

"TransAm Ed"
I don't recall the old 1.0 forum post. What is the "Passino testing car" (maybe #0463 the A/C testing car)?
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Richstang

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Quote from: BGlover67 on July 30, 2018, 10:44:01 AM
A friend of mine sent me this of a screen grab from an episode of 'Counting Cars'.  They had a 67 GT500 featured on it.  Interesting that the VIN plate has a 'Z' considering it's a repop.  (oops, did I say that?)  IMHO

Looks like #0911 a lime gold 4-spd thermactor GT500. Anyone know if this is the same black car recently posted as spotted on the show?
Confirmed as the Black car with gold side stripes.

Several photos of re-pop VIN tags show the added "Z" stamp. Curiously, they are on later builds that would likely have them on the original VIN tag...as if they just wanted to replace the old worn / faded original.
:'(.



Also want to thank everyone who is posting "Z" Stamp VIN info.
:)
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stas427


sfm5s081

2798 has the Z as well. Sold new to Morristown, NJ. At which point or Vin # were the cars being produced in Michigan vs Ca?

capecodmustang.com

I've had 50-60 67s...
Every later car had a Z on the tag...

J_Speegle

Quote from: sfm5s081 on August 10, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
............. At which point or Vin # were the cars being produced in Michigan vs Ca?

???   All 67's were built at San Jose
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

Bob Gaines

Quote from: sfm5s081 on August 10, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
2798 has the Z as well. Sold new to Morristown, NJ. At which point or Vin # were the cars being produced in Michigan vs Ca?
As Jeff wrote they were all made in SJ. I hadn't heard that particular urban legend in maybe 30 years. The inboard vs out board used to be another tale on when the change to Michigan transitioned. It is funny to look back on some of those old proven wrong theories .
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Richstang

Quote from: capecodmustang.com on August 10, 2018, 01:52:30 PM
I've had 50-60 67s...
Every later car had a Z on the tag...

This is what I'm seeing too. Every car built by SA after 4/27/67 appears to have the Z stamp with only 1 exception so far.
My Z stamp count is up to 563 cars out of 700 VINs. If the 4/27 continues to hold true, we would have approximately 1,548 car with the stamping.   
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