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Original Magnum 500s or Magnum no hundreds?

Started by deathsled, October 15, 2023, 01:29:12 PM

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deathsled

On a cleaning binge. Found these that came off of his 66 fastback.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

SHELB66

Just from the pics they APPEAR to be Mopar rims with the greater negative offset when compared to Hertz Shelby rims.

Craig R.
66 Hertz 6S1564
06 Hertz #446
64 Ranchero V8 4spd
02 Explorer Sport Trac

deathsled

Quote from: SHELB66 on October 15, 2023, 04:42:03 PM
Just from the pics they APPEAR to be Mopar rims with the greater negative offset when compared to Hertz Shelby rims.

Craig R.
So in other words, worthless. Thank you for your input.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

deathsled

I did some rudimentary measurements. To begin it looks like these are 15 inch rims.  Aren't originals supposed to be 14 inch? Besides, even if they were original they look like garbage. I put them out by the side of the road to see if someone wants them.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

SHELB66

Look at the tire size on the tire itself.  There will be your answer.  Hertz Magnums are 14".  I'm sure that when cleaned up they will look much better.  Nice chrome Magnums can bring a few bucks.

Craig R.
66 Hertz 6S1564
06 Hertz #446
64 Ranchero V8 4spd
02 Explorer Sport Trac

Lincoln tech

Quote from: SHELB66 on October 15, 2023, 06:55:01 PM
Look at the tire size on the tire itself.  There will be your answer. 
That would be too easy  :P

deathsled

The measurement on the rim is 15. The tire size says 14.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

67350#1242

Measure the rims from bead to bead, not from outside edges.  They look like 14's to me.
67 GT350  SJ 02/01/67  Gray 4spd A/C
67 Coupe  SJ 11/16/66  White Auto A/C PDB

deathsled

I pulled them from the side of the road to further evaluate.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

shelbymann1970

Quote from: deathsled on October 15, 2023, 07:32:02 PM
The measurement on the rim is 15. The tire size says 14.
Tire says 14 then a 14" rim. It is weird how they are measured in size.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

SHELB66

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 16, 2023, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: deathsled on October 15, 2023, 07:32:02 PM
The measurement on the rim is 15. The tire size says 14.
Tire says 14 then a 14" rim. It is weird how they are measured in size.

Same with wheel width as that is measured from where the tire bead seats on each side.  Many people still measure from outer edge to outer edge.  There's usually about a 1" difference.

Craig R.
66 Hertz 6S1564
06 Hertz #446
64 Ranchero V8 4spd
02 Explorer Sport Trac

shelbymann1970

#11
Quote from: SHELB66 on October 16, 2023, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 16, 2023, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: deathsled on October 15, 2023, 07:32:02 PM
The measurement on the rim is 15. The tire size says 14.
Tire says 14 then a 14" rim. It is weird how they are measured in size.

Same with wheel width as that is measured from where the tire bead seats on each side.  Many people still measure from outer edge to outer edge.  There's usually about a 1" difference.

Craig R.
So factory wheels like Magnums and KH steel wheels have the width stamped in the rim like this 68 Shelby steel wheel(6 inch)  12 29 date and "6" next to 29 right of valve stem. Chrome Magnums on the back side (7.0)
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)
"2nd" owner of 68 GT500 #1626

J_Speegle

#12
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 16, 2023, 02:22:19 PM
So factory wheels like Magnums and KH steel wheels have the width stamped in the rim like this 68 Shelby steel wheel(6 inch)  12 29 date and "6" next to 29 right of valve stem. Chrome Magnums on the back side (7.0)

They are stamped though location of that stamping and other codes depends on year they were made (both Motorwheels - Magnums and KH). Some are visible while other years are not once the tire is installed. Examples of those have been posted in a number of prior threads
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge


J_Speegle

Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge