1969 BOSS 302 GT 350 Prototype

[stephen_becker]

Not mine - I remember when they found this car


https://www.ebay.com/itm/235339975548?hash=item36cb5b0b7c:g:RS0AAOSwmglld6Vw&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8B3CGupuIj7JVd9HrMau1EhLXBUIcK9j4mkqUGyNyjX6icow9bkhqf4OQLrlOrz%2BKjlSMhrbeVgG%2B%2Fj0w4uuhapEtX4qQpmFJKTVsTV9624WSvRGJWCvKPcX%2BRalHWIevP%2B3su%2B%2FMXc7P2hQu35wLvl4P%2FB9LC1hC%2Bsq3JFAQa%2BYXKJWeg71uW8YWVaXL5IEFynJBe11FJM%2Bxp9UnDMCsXbiaON%2FZbkhY6sE6c%2FNGTxKLtyItvrUXphURihEluTLGUlwlgbocz5fn0Kh2kh4Uytno3j%2FwJOEEGMjOTa5wZop2U19ffYK6aulBawD%2FRR20g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR46Ul-aNYw

[Coralsnake]

My title is probably more appropriate

https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=25303.0

[Coralsnake]

Its not a Boss 302 prototype or a Shelby prototype, so I guess calling a "prototype" might be a stretch.

Engineering car might be a better description in my estimation

[FL SAAC]

Kool car thats the one in our registry

[Coralsnake]

I encourage anyone that is interested, ask the owner to post the build sheet. That will tell you a lot about the car.

😉

[shelbymann1970]

Not mine - I remember when they found this car


https://www.ebay.com/itm/235339975548?hash=item36cb5b0b7c:g:RS0AAOSwmglld6Vw&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8B3CGupuIj7JVd9HrMau1EhLXBUIcK9j4mkqUGyNyjX6icow9bkhqf4OQLrlOrz%2BKjlSMhrbeVgG%2B%2Fj0w4uuhapEtX4qQpmFJKTVsTV9624WSvRGJWCvKPcX%2BRalHWIevP%2B3su%2B%2FMXc7P2hQu35wLvl4P%2FB9LC1hC%2Bsq3JFAQa%2BYXKJWeg71uW8YWVaXL5IEFynJBe11FJM%2Bxp9UnDMCsXbiaON%2FZbkhY6sE6c%2FNGTxKLtyItvrUXphURihEluTLGUlwlgbocz5fn0Kh2kh4Uytno3j%2FwJOEEGMjOTa5wZop2U19ffYK6aulBawD%2FRR20g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR46Ul-aNYw

Who is "They"? I knew of the car since 1984 right after second owner bought it off of the original owner. Car was never lost. Hit the snakebite around 1990-1 from 3rd owner. Then I believe George H bought it then. Traded it to someone in Indiana and I think then Bob Gaines got it. Then Billy. Never lost nor not known what it was even from the original owner when Jeff Plowman bought it off of him.  who is "They"? watch video.    https://www.tiktok.com/@eshulman2/video/7305774213992860974

[shelbymann1970]

Once many many years ago someone from SAAC coined it best: it is a Shelby Vinned Boss 302.

[Special Ed]

Back years ago a well known shelby guy Gary Burke (RIP) from TN  called me about this car and asked me if i would come down and look at it so i did and it was partly apart in his back yard under some pine trees i remember looking under the carpet and finding some odd snake center cap emblem decals and i knew it was a special car but we never had marti reports or and shelby invioces back then. I talked george huisman into buying it but he later resold it because back then we couldnt find much documentation.

[shelbymann1970]

Back years ago a well known shelby guy Gary Burke (RIP) from TN  called me about this car and asked me if i would come down and look at it so i did and it was partly apart in his back yard under some pine trees i remember looking under the carpet and finding some odd snake center cap emblem decals and i knew it was a special car but we never had marti reports or and shelby invioces back then. I talked george huisman into buying it but he later resold it because back then we couldnt find much documentation.

I talked to Gary Burke when it was in the snakebite and found out he bought it off of Jeff Plowman after Jeff moved back to Tn and went into the Coast Guard. Jeff knew it was unique when I first saw it and tried buying the Shelby wheels off of it for my 70 drag pack GT500 in 1984. He showed me the vin and that is when I tried to find out more about it and the only thing I got was Nick Zuk who worked for Ford was told a few were built. IIRC I gave George the original owner's name as I had it written down but that was early 90s. Back in the early 80s I bought the Standard guide to American cars 1946-1975. I studied that book like a Bible back when I was young and memorized all the rare engine codes especially  Fords and mopars and saw what was rare and so forth. I still have the book.  https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/standard-catalog-of-american-cars-1946-1975/1448644/item/62061959/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=low_vol_f%2fm%2fs_standard_shopping_customer_aquisition&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=603452145786&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAj_CrBhD-ARIsAIiMxT_D_vLaZxIxMx6eu-CWJZoUuBysfmIn8Q2RXJ7ipwE4ODOzBLsDZzgaAg1JEALw_wcB#idiq=62061959&edition=64801142

[98SVT - was 06GT]

9F02G482244

Unless it can be proven to be a restamp G= Boss 302 and 48 = Shelby. If it left the factory with regular Boss #02 sheet metal and later in life got the intended Shelby parts/fiberglass to finish it there is no difference to other cars that were sold before they were finished - like the Super Coupe.

This I call BS on and it leads me to the restamp ?. Ford accounting would have found the error. There was also probably a process where they handed you the keys and made sure you weren't driving off the lot with the wrong car.
This car was not invoiced under the VIN 9F02G482244 and was not intended to be sold. An executive design engineer that worked on the 1968 and 1969 Shelby design line was able to apply for an invoice under VIN 9F02G582244 from Ford Motor Company. Only then could he receive  a title from Ray Whitfield Ford in Livonia, Michigan. This was to keep the car under Ford's radar so it did not show up as a 1969 Shelby. The car was then purchased from Ford under the VIN of 9F02G582244 for $1,750.00 and was titled for fifteen years in that family's name under VIN G582244. When resold, the second owner had the number changed back to its original VIN as "48."

[FL SAAC]

VIN  #  9F02G482244

I have a question about this Car: 

Since the 48 in the VIN denotes a SHELBY Mustang 

The "G" in the VIN just denotes an Engine

That specific "G" code was only designated to "BOSS 302" Mustangs

Wouldn't it be correct to say that it is MORE Shelby than BOSS

Therefore it is the only Shelby with a Boss 302 Engine installed from the Factory? 

I understand that it may not have had ALL the fiberglass parts day one.

But it was a development car, unfortunately the money or program ended and it never reached its maturity.

Wish I had it

[Coralsnake]

Just to be clear I am not accusing anyone of restamping anything.

I do not believe just because was sent to Shelby, it is a Shelby.

Personally, I believe if it was built as a Shelby by either Shelby Engineering or AOSmith then it is a Shelby.  During the earlier years Shelby had Mustangs assigned to the company. That in itself does not make them "Shelbys". If you add the Shelby parts to them they are still not Shelbys.

I feel the car can not be documented as a 1969 Shelby even with the "48" code. It simply identifies were the car was sent. The notes on the build sheet identify its true configuration

The build sheet and IBM card documentation prove this position.

To say the program ended is not accurate, there were a lot of Shelbys built after this car arrived at Shelby Engineering

[FL SAAC]

FYI

48 = identifies all Shelbys not used for any other Ford vehicles

[shelbymann1970]

9F02G482244

Unless it can be proven to be a restamp G= Boss 302 and 48 = Shelby. If it left the factory with regular Boss #02 sheet metal and later in life got the intended Shelby parts/fiberglass to finish it there is no difference to other cars that were sold before they were finished - like the Super Coupe.

This I call BS on and it leads me to the restamp ?. Ford accounting would have found the error. There was also probably a process where they handed you the keys and made sure you weren't driving off the lot with the wrong car.
This car was not invoiced under the VIN 9F02G482244 and was not intended to be sold. An executive design engineer that worked on the 1968 and 1969 Shelby design line was able to apply for an invoice under VIN 9F02G582244 from Ford Motor Company. Only then could he receive  a title from Ray Whitfield Ford in Livonia, Michigan. This was to keep the car under Ford's radar so it did not show up as a 1969 Shelby. The car was then purchased from Ford under the VIN of 9F02G582244 for $1,750.00 and was titled for fifteen years in that family's name under VIN G582244. When resold, the second owner had the number changed back to its original VIN as "48."

While I was only 24 back in 1984 I had owned a lot of 69-70 Mustangs up until that point. I know what a Ford VIN looks like back then and now. Nowhere do I recall a "5" being where the "4" was but if Jeff did what you said I'd think I'd be able to spot that(I had #2039 Boss 9 with a Q code vin so again, know Ford vins). I owned 0F02R482351 at the time and knew what the Shelby designation was at the time. Does Kevin Marti back up what you said? If sold with a "5" then the Marti report would show a 5 in that spot.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Just to be clear I am not accusing anyone of restamping anything.

Nor am I but the ORIGINAL paperwork on the car is 58 not 48. Raises my curiosity to the point I would hire a good forensic guy to examine the VIN stampings before I threw down my money.