Mecum Kissimmee 2024 - 1962-1970 Shelby American products

[wcampbell]

Solenoid was the correct black - it has been swapped out. Here's a couple other items swapped out or gone missing as well...spare tire cover, original bungee cord and NOS positive terminal protecting cap ( I sure hope that trunk lever doesn't touch or it could get crispy...

[camp upshur]

 

For all of the coverage of this car, no mention of the original engine.
Interesting vocabulary utilized by the auction house: a 'prerequisite' 289 (?).
Any pics of the block casting date, engine assembly, or engine machining dates?

12 May 1965 SAI arrival Mustangs (which this car is) are easily cross indexed for validity.
Can a car attain 'SAAC Gold' or 'MCA Concours Gold' without its original engine?

[Shawn]

  S202.1 – 1967 GT350 67200F5A01675 - https://www.mecum.com/lots/1100892/1967-shelby-gt350-fastback/?aa_id=495758-0

In the documentation the Ford and Shelby vins are shown on the Marti Report.  Should Mecum remove this?

[Shawn]

Anyone have history on   S202.1 – 1967 GT350 67200F5A01675 ??

[CharlesTurner]

For all of the coverage of this car, no mention of the original engine.
Interesting vocabulary utilized by the auction house: a 'prerequisite' 289 (?).
Any pics of the block casting date, engine assembly, or engine machining dates?

12 May 1965 SAI arrival Mustangs (which this car is) are easily cross indexed for validity.
Can a car attain 'SAAC Gold' or 'MCA Concours Gold' without its original engine?

Normally, unless the auction description specifically states 'numbers matching', it should be assumed that it's not.

Yes, a car can attain Gold in SAAC or MCA concours without an original VIN stamped block.  If the block was different, say a 302 installed in a '65, then that would be a major deduction... although at least with SAAC, we wouldn't allow a car with such a modification to be entered into concours.

[Bob Gaines]

 

For all of the coverage of this car, no mention of the original engine.
Interesting vocabulary utilized by the auction house: a 'prerequisite' 289 (?).
Any pics of the block casting date, engine assembly, or engine machining dates?

12 May 1965 SAI arrival Mustangs (which this car is) are easily cross indexed for validity.
Can a car attain 'SAAC Gold' or 'MCA Concours Gold' without its original engine?

It depends on the class at a SAAC  concours. In DIV I a appropriate vin stamp would typically be mandatory the same as dated coded Carlite trademarked glass, sheet metal, fuel pump etc.  In Div II however date codes and trademarks are not typically mandatory and good reproduction parts are acceptable. As Charles mentioned in this case any signs of a non vintage 289 block and or hipo heads are points deducted and would be encouraged to be instead in a modified class which in the case of SAAC is popular vote . Typically rather then diminish a entrants enthusiasm by taking a modified car out of a class the judges will offer one on one time to go over the car. At least for Shelby's at SAAC and MCA venues when I have been involved or observed that touchy situation.     

[JWH]

I have the Mecum auction on in the background today. Would someone provide the background on the "Northwest Shelby Collection?" Here is a write-up and link to the cars being sold, but no mention of the owners or why they are selling:
https://www.mecum.com/articles/northwest-shelby-collection/


Unrelated, I saw a car (not a Shelby) being auctioned from the "FUX Collection." (Not sure how that got past the censor)

[Bob Gaines]

I have the Mecum auction on in the background today. Would someone provide the background on the "Northwest Shelby Collection?" Here is a write-up and link to the cars being sold, but no mention of the owners or why they are selling:
https://www.mecum.com/articles/northwest-shelby-collection/


Unrelated, I saw a car (not a Shelby) being auctioned from the "FUX Collection." (Not sure how that got past the censor)

When I looked at the pictures of the vintage Shelby's from the "Northwest Shelby" collection I see some beautiful looking cars . It is apparent that they all are meant for the most part to look like factory original . Although beautiful cars the ironic thing is that with my factory original concours judges cap on I see a number of "Shelby 101" type mistakes in every picture . It makes me wonder how many other things would be seen out of the ordinary in other pictures of the cars.  It just goes to show you that if you are concerned about things like original look that you better know what to look for or have someone that does look a potiential purchase car over before you bid. At least if you don't want any surprises after the fact.   

[Mikelj5S230]

The '65 GT350 went for good money at Mecum just now, I think it was S262?

[CharlesTurner]

The '65 GT350 went for good money at Mecum just now, I think it was S262?

Yes, $500k hammer, guess a 10% gratuity? - $550k

[camp upshur]

Which begs the question:

I wonder what a complete car is worth?

[Mikelj5S230]

So you don't buy the description? 

"Factory demonstrator when new
Rare trunk-mounted battery complete with "Cobra" vented battery caps
Documented with copies of the dealer invoice, dealer order form, shipping documents and owner's manual
Nut and bolt rotisserie restored
SAAC-42 Gold award winner
MCA Concours Gold award winner
Amelia Island Concours class winner
Greenbrier Concours d'Elegance award winner
Shipped new to Gene Harmon Ford in Texas City, Texas"

The SAAC and MCA judges missed something?

[jk66gt350]

The 66 Ford GT40 MkI did pretty well - $6,930,000 !!     https://www.mecum.com/lots/1106987/1966-ford-gt40-mki-road-car/?aa_id=525113-0

[sfm5]

Which begs the question:

I wonder what a complete car is worth?

We'll get another view of the '65 GT350 market when 5s555 crosses the block at BJ. Not sure that is a "complete" car though.

[CharlesTurner]

So you don't buy the description? 


The SAAC and MCA judges missed something?

Previous comments on this topic note some items changed/removed since the car was judged at MCA/SAAC.  Probably more of the norm than exception, unfortunately.