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Plaza Fiberglass sticker application

Started by Bob Gaines, July 09, 2024, 02:51:41 PM

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Bob Gaines

A Lot of the 67 Shelby fiberglass hood and trunk lids were made by Plaza Fiberglass. The company would identify their product with a sticker applied before it was sent to SA. The sticker was typically placed along a outside edge of the hood on the latch end of the hood. The trunk lid had similar placement on the latch end of the lid . I have only seen them placed away from where any weatherstrip would be placed. The bottom side of the hoods and trunk lids came ether painted black or less often bare fiberglass.  With all of this said I constantly see a common mistake with placement. Since these were place before arriving at SA they would be subject to the same body color overspray that the hood or trunk lid was painted with. There should be the same amount of area overspray that surrounds the area that the sticker is placed in. Most of the time I see these stickers stuck pristine within a field of overspray. They should have a equivalent amount of body color overspray as the field that they are place in. If they are placed far enough away from the edge and there is no overspray in the area then they may be clear of any. Also these stickers did not stay on well. Many fell off even before the painting process happened . Many fell off shortly after. Maybe even before the car was sold from the dealership to the first owner.If one fell off after the painting process then it would leave a rectangular shaped body color witness line with a black center of where the sticker was. Many 67 Shelby's still bear the outline.  If the sticker fell off prior to the painting process there would be no evidence it was ever there. From a historical standpoint a restoration you could pick from any one of the 3 different scenarios I mentioned and be seen as correct. If however a sticker is applied in a field of oversprayed area and the sticker does not have any overspray then it would be a deduction in concours. A small deduction for sure I but a deduction nonetheless. The plaza fiberglass sticker is a relevant historical detail if it is used in a properly detailed context on a later production car. Maybe Dave Mathews has some info to narrow down when the Plaza Fiberglass company started to be seen in 67 production. The picture I included shows how not to do it. The sticker has been placed on top of the overspray . The sticker should have overspray on it in the same proportions as the surrounding area because it would have been there when the painting was done.       
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

J_Speegle

Here are a couple of pictures documenting that, as Bob shares above, the stickers were in place before the hood was painted. Since both of these originals fell or were removed the stickers left a paint shadow behind each



So the finished product would show exterior color (direct or overspray) over the sticker not under  :)
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

67 GT350

were they also on the upper and lower scoops?
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JD

#3
Quote from: 67 GT350 on July 10, 2024, 10:31:13 AMwere they also on the upper and lower scoops?

to my knowledge - No.

They do/did have part numbers molded into them, just inside the front of the opening, will look for images. see attached.
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

Bob Gaines

+1 . Hoods and trunk lids were the parts that carried the stickers given their surfaces were the only practical places to put the stickers. I am not completely sure if Plaza did the upper or lower scoops. The scoops with the part number on the ribbon tape was made by another company.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Kent

How many different versions are known for the 67 scoops? Is there also a thread?
SAAC Member from Germany and Owner of a unrestored 1967 Shelby GT500, 1968 1/2 Cobra Jet´s and some nice Mustang Fastback´s 67/68

JD

#6
Uppers or lowers?

Suggest search SCOOPS in the 67 Shelby GT350/GT500 section.

Here is two results;
https://www.saac.com/forum/index.php?topic=2351.0

https://www.saac.com/forum/index.php?topic=10068.msg84395#msg84395
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

GT350DAVE

The Plazaglas, all fiberglass hoods and trunk lids, for the most part began to appear the beginning of April and were salted in with the remaining Borg Warner metal framed hoods and trunk lids until the Borg Warner parts were depleted. With 67 Shelby Mustangs there are always exceptions to the rule however.
Dave
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: GT350DAVE on July 11, 2024, 12:07:00 PMThe Plazaglas, all fiberglass hoods and trunk lids, for the most part began to appear the beginning of April and were salted in with the remaining Borg Warner metal framed hoods and trunk lids until the Borg Warner parts were depleted. With 67 Shelby Mustangs there are always exceptions to the rule however.
Dave
Thanks Dave.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby