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Started by Coralsnake, February 01, 2025, 10:54:56 AM

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I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

shelbydoug

#1
At the risk of burning off my own eyebrows with my own fire, I won't comment too much on the mechanics competency other then I've never seen a fire quite like that one?


In regards to other descriptions that he uses and explainations, yes, "Trickle out" is exactly the term Holley uses in their instructions of setting the float levels. Personally, I never get that quite right except if you tell me "trickle", then I need to go pee.

If you are lucky, you will get the fuel right at the verge of coming out of the sight hole. I just leave it there. The primary bowls are the easy ones. The secondaries are the tough ones. They are almost a go, no go thing because the sight hole is lower and the secondary bowls hold less fuel.

I haven't seen the ethanol at 10% eat anything yet but I do see the blend I buy here leaving a white sticky residue on the inlet valves that tends to make them stick closed after the car sits a week or so, of all things? Very strange and according to what Drew has noticed, associated with the regional blends of the pump gas? So the thinking is that not all the regions use that additive, and the blend varies as does the additive, whatever it is?


I do agree that the non-original blue reusable aftermarket gaskets are much better then the original Holley cork gaskets but you will see those after they are installed as not looking original if that matters to you? However, they last much longer then the Holley cork versions without drying out and shrinking.


Flames on Holleys, generally speaking, are not good. Flames on Webers, well that's different, but you only see them at night when you start the engine. The flames are clearly visible through the velocity stacks. That is not very comforting but you just learn to live with it, like in the '60s of "learning to live with the bomb, and loving it?"  8)
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JohnSlack

Quote from: shelbydoug on February 01, 2025, 11:51:58 AMAt the risk of burning off my own eyebrows with my own fire, I won't comment too much on the mechanics competency other then I've never seen a fire quite like that one?


In regards to other descriptions that he uses and explainations, yes, "Trickle out" is exactly the term Holley uses in their instructions of setting the float levels. Personally, I never get that quite right except if you tell me "trickle", then I need to go pee.

If you are lucky, you will get the fuel right at the verge of coming out of the sight hole. I just leave it there. The primary bowls are the easy ones. The secondaries are the tough ones. They are almost a go, no go thing because the sight hole is lower and the secondary bowls hold less fuel.

I haven't seen the ethanol at 10% eat anything yet but I do see the blend I buy here leaving a white sticky residue on the inlet valves that tends to make them stick closed after the car sits a week or so, of all things? Very strange and according to what Drew has noticed, associated with the regional blends of the pump gas? So the thinking is that not all the regions use that additive, and the blend varies as does the additive, whatever it is?


I do agree that the non-original blue reusable aftermarket gaskets are much better then the original Holley cork gaskets but you will see those after they are installed as not looking original if that matters to you? However, they last much longer then the Holley cork versions without drying out and shrinking.


Flames on Holleys, generally speaking, are not good. Flames on Webers, well that's different, but you only see them at night when you start the engine. The flames are clearly visible through the velocity stacks. That is not very comforting but you just learn to live with it, like in the '60s of "learning to live with the bomb, and loving it?"  8)

It's a pain in the bottom, I color the visible edges of the gasket with a Sharpie. They don't stick out then.

QuickSilverShelby

Excellent video.  Jerry makes the carb rebuild and tune look so easy but I suppose that's how it goes when you're an expert on such things.

I've got a date code correct engine and a date code correct Holley for my 68 GT500.  They've both been sitting in a garage of mine for at least 15 years, waiting to go into my car.  I should probably have an expert like Jerry go over them and rebuild the carb before they get installed, if I ever get around to it.

QSS
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shelbydoug

Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on February 01, 2025, 12:28:46 PMExcellent video.  Jerry makes the carb rebuild and tune look so easy but I suppose that's how it goes when you're an expert on such things.

I've got a date code correct engine and a date code correct Holley for my 68 GT500.  They've both been sitting in a garage of mine for at least 15 years, waiting to go into my car.  I should probably have an expert like Jerry go over them and rebuild the carb before they get installed, if I ever get around to it.

QSS

Does he offer an address where you can ship the carbs to him at for his rebuilds?
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QuickSilverShelby

Quote from: shelbydoug on February 01, 2025, 12:33:50 PMDoes he offer an address where you can ship the carbs to him at for his rebuilds?
There's no mention in the video where Jerry was sending out the carbs for rebuild.

QSS
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I was impressed he installed that big block himself.  I learned a few things. 

shelbydoug

#7
Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on February 01, 2025, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 01, 2025, 12:33:50 PMDoes he offer an address where you can ship the carbs to him at for his rebuilds?
There's no mention in the video where Jerry was sending out the carbs for rebuild.

QSS

After the carb "fires up', he says, "I guess I'll send the carbs out for a rebuild again". Then you see him putting in "kits in the carbs".

Personally I never trust any unknown Holley and always refreshen them. That is never a bad idea.

I don't even run the engine to set the floats initially. I prime them with an electric fuel pump, get them close, check for leaks, then start the engine.


I think that it helps to raise the rear of the car as much as you can when installing the engine. It is threading the needle. There are now different concerns in installing the engine. Damaged components are expensive and sometimes difficult to replace.

I don't remember now if Ford is credited with installing the valve covers at the assembly plant but I'm wondering if they would have bothered to remove the aluminum valve cover and carbs at engine installation like Jerry did? I would think no but yes on the air cleaner assembly?


That shield is installed on the defroster/heater blower motor for a reason. Mine is still installed but shows no signs of being banged or scraped.
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Coralsnake

Removing the valve covers and bell housings is helpful, I also think installing the plug wires is helpful.

Contrary to many peoples opinion, that motor will fit in straight down without any tilting. You just have to go slow

I dont know if they dyno'd the motor but its always a good idea
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I'm looking for 9F02M480004. Have you seen it?

shelbydoug

Quote from: Coralsnake on February 01, 2025, 02:38:22 PMRemoving the valve covers and bell housings is helpful, I also think installing the plug wires is helpful.

Contrary to many peoples opinion, that motor will fit in straight down without any tilting. You just have to go slow

I dont know if they dyno'd the motor but its always a good idea

It isn't so much of tilting the car for the engine. It is the transmission tailpiece hits the ground easily. I think the assembly line just had more room for the transmission to clear? The bell, I don't know about.
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Quote from: 69 GT350 Vert on February 01, 2025, 02:11:25 PMI was impressed he installed that big block himself.  . 
And the cameraman or grip if they had the budget.
He needs to do his homework on zinc. It was added to oil a high pressure lubricant not a friction enhancer. It kills catalytic converters which is why they took it out and went to roller lifters.
It was first added to oil in the 50s when engine speeds were increasing and required higher valve spring pressures.
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J_Speegle

From the description I thought there was going to be a larger fire. Glad to see that it wasn't

Is it me, may have missed it, but did someone forget putting the engine plate on before they put on the flywheel?  Not that it would be the first time someone forgot that.

Not sure where the GIANT X on the oil pan came from along with a few other details.

Good job on sliding the engine into place - we all seem to have similar though different practices. Of course editing and such can often make things look easier and smoother.

Hope Jerry get to drive and enjoy the Shelby soon though he may already be doing just that
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J_Speegle

Quote from: shelbydoug on February 01, 2025, 03:09:19 PMIt isn't so much of tilting the car for the engine. It is the transmission tailpiece hits the ground easily. I think the assembly line just had more room for the transmission to clear? The bell, I don't know about.

Remember or consider that at the station where the engine and transmissions were installed there were two workers above - up with the car, then a worker below in a pit to grab and guide the transmission and tail shaft plus all the clearance the pit provided. Plus plenty of experience
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: J_Speegle on February 01, 2025, 03:54:00 PMFrom the description I thought there was going to be a larger fire. Glad to see that it wasn't

Is it me, may have missed it, but did someone forget putting the engine plate on before they put on the flywheel?  Not that it would be the first time someone forgot that.

Not sure where the GIANT X on the oil pan came from along with a few other details.

Good job on sliding the engine into place - we all seem to have similar though different practices. Of course editing and such can often make things look easier and smoother.

Hope Jerry get to drive and enjoy the Shelby soon though he may already be doing just that
Of course I had to watch the ongoing saga like others here. I thought he would have caught the missing block plate when he put the bellhousing on but it didn't appear to be on as of when they were lowering the engine into the engine compartment. It will be a lot of work taking off all of the installed components needed to install the missing block plate once they figure out what they missed. That is more than a little embarrassing IMO having that video documented . I see a lot of engine detailing failures in the pictures. I can only assume the color in Jerry's camera is off too otherwise that is some very sub par "concours" carb plating IMO. I got a stiff neck (almost) :D  from shaking my head in disgust watching this installment but not unexpected based on the other videos. 
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shelbydoug

#14
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 01, 2025, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 01, 2025, 03:54:00 PMFrom the description I thought there was going to be a larger fire. Glad to see that it wasn't

Is it me, may have missed it, but did someone forget putting the engine plate on before they put on the flywheel?  Not that it would be the first time someone forgot that.

Not sure where the GIANT X on the oil pan came from along with a few other details.

Good job on sliding the engine into place - we all seem to have similar though different practices. Of course editing and such can often make things look easier and smoother.

Hope Jerry get to drive and enjoy the Shelby soon though he may already be doing just that
Of course I had to watch the ongoing saga like others here. I thought he would have caught the missing block plate when he put the bellhousing on but it didn't appear to be on as of when they were lowering the engine into the engine compartment. It will be a lot of work taking off all of the installed components needed to install the missing block plate once they figure out what they missed. That is more than a little embarrassing IMO having that video documented . I see a lot of engine detailing failures in the pictures. I can only assume the color in Jerry's camera is off too otherwise that is some very sub par "concours" carb plating IMO. I got a stiff neck (almost) :D  from shaking my head in disgust watching this installment but not unexpected based on the other videos. 

 ;)

I think he must get his detailing data from an alternative facts News station? "X" marks the spot. You didn't know that?
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