Where can I get Red Oxide primer for my floors?

[TOBKOB]

+1 That's why I asked for pics.

TOB

[J_Speegle]

I have never seen a 1968 Shelby with a sprayed black tunnel, but I have seen several cars that have black paint sprayed over the primer in the area above the rear axle housing

+1 Remember/consider that since the floor sealer/paint was applied by stationary jets mounted below the traveling body rail system all of the jets were supplied from the same source and product was applied from the firewall rearward there was not an ability to apply different colors to different sections of the main and rear floor areas.

Have seen all kinds of sprays and coatings added after. likely IMHO by owners thinking it would improve or address some issue or concern.

Sometimes it's just some owner and a rattle can. Have dozens of examples (we many of us have seen them) with brightly painted rearends from the 70-80's

Seems the thread has taken a 68 tilt

[shelbydoug]

I have never seen a 1968 Shelby with a sprayed black tunnel, but I have seen several cars that have black paint sprayed over the primer in the area above the rear axle housing

I didn't say it was sprayed black. What I said was the black mixed in COULD explain the slop grey, almost galvanized effect in certain spots on the car like the tunnel and like around the emergency brake brackets.

It DOESN'T EXPLAIN the "pink" near the bell house indentation like on mine and Phil's -00212.

[6s2020]

68 floor

Nice color - all or most of the oversprays came off with the cleaning as usual. Take it that this is a NJ car. From what month if I can ask ?

Sunlit Gold i would say which is very opaque , the overspray is there, just hard to see.

Hardly , the all or most gone as usual scenario.

Much rather see these original factory floors than reproduction finishes.

After 50+ years a little wear and missing some fine overspray is fine by me.

[J_Speegle]

.......... What I said was the black mixed in COULD explain the slop grey, ..............

Not sure how one would get the center one or two jets to spray a different color than the other spray jets all plumbed together. Just discussing

Much rather see these original factory floors than reproduction ones.

After 50+ years a little wear and missing some fine overspray is fine by me.

Just to clarify my earlier post. Yes love to see original floors that's why I've collected the same for 30 plus years. Just didn't want others to see and take away from the posting that the amount of visible overspray seen in the pictures posted was typical of a new or well restored Mustang/Shelby.  The finer oversprays at least rarely hold up to any cleaning and the pinch weld overspray is not very opaque and its all but gone in the pictures - supporting that paint was removed during the process IMHO.

But again great to see the example and was only asking about the production period or date so I could label, store and compare these to others  as best possible

[6s2020]

.......... What I said was the black mixed in COULD explain the slop grey, ..............

Not sure how one would get the center one or two jets to spray a different color than the other spray jets all plumbed together. Just discussing

Much rather see these original factory floors than reproduction ones.

After 50+ years a little wear and missing some fine overspray is fine by me.

Just to clarify my earlier post. Yes love to see original floors that's why I've collected the same for 30 plus years. Just didn't want others to see and take away from the posting that the amount of visible overspray seen in the pictures posted was typical of a new or well restored Mustang/Shelby.  The finer oversprays at least rarely hold up to any cleaning and the pinch weld overspray is not very opaque and its all but gone in the pictures - supporting that paint was removed during the process IMHO.

But again great to see the example and was only asking about the production period or date so I could label, store and compare these to others  as best possible

Text in red...Same can be said for most restorations.

Not sure if this one ever got pinch weld paint by the look of it. Doubt cleaning only would remove it.
Would have to see before cleaning shots.
Info and photos are put up to share and you can pick and choose based on research what is applicable.

All good Jeff

Darryll

[J_Speegle]

Not sure if this one ever got pinch weld paint by the look of it. Doubt cleaning only would remove it.
Would have to see before cleaning shots.
Info and photos are put up to share and you can pick and choose based on research what is applicable.

Appears to be traces of black left along the outer surface of the convertible seat support and rearward nearer the rear wheel well. Since the black is the top layer over the body color it comes off first or is often part of undercoating if it was applied. Have removed many examples with cleaning to aggressively over the years.  Thing I have an idea related to the rear rend section of the rear floor and it having black there but will share that after a little more study and possibly with the release of the 68 NJ undercarriage finishing article.

Maybe we can benefit from a separate thread here or elsewhere  to focus just on that year and plant.

[shelbydoug]

Not sure how one would get the center one or two jets to spray a different color than the other spray jets all plumbed together. Just discussing





It's not a different color. It just SEEMS to vary in the deep pockets of the flooring. Inconsistent is the word that best describes it.

Also, where the dividing line is from the front of the car to the rear, I can't say other then the back of the car is completely different then the front, from about the indentation in the pan where the rear seat cushions seat above.

Look at the pictures of -00212 that Phil had posted. Mine is very, very similar. I long ago just got disgusted with looking at the inconsistency and unfinished appearance and shot black 3m undercoating over it.

Recently I was washing it off of the front. The disgust has returned. I don't think that was a wise decision by me. I'll have to take the entire car apart to get the full picture.

At least with my Pantera I don't have to deal with that. The factory just embed the undercarriage in tar.

[Coralsnake]

January built 1968 Shelby. Car was a little rusty, but unrestored. Black paint directly above rear axle

[Coralsnake]

A different 1968 Shelby also unrestored....either Jan or Feb build date. Might have been to cover bare areas? Looks to be sprayed over redox and not done by owner

[shelbydoug]

Mine is a 2/14/68 build date. The plot thickens? Play the music.

Maybe their version of batch paint? On mine it almost looks like the 55-7 T-birds where the painters were cleaning out the spray guns. Maybe the robots were in revolt?

The black spots like that are more of a flat dark grey, but yes, they are there.

[SNAKEBIT]

68 floor

Nice color - all or most of the oversprays came off with the cleaning as usual. Take it that this is a NJ car. From what month if I can ask ?

What makes it a New Jersey car? That red oxide primer looks almost like it has a little copper in it. Orange-ish-red with copper and a hint of black? laugh

[Coralsnake]

All 1968 Shelbys were built at the New Jersey-assembly. You are not going to accurately identify specific colors over the nternet

[KR500]

A different 1968 Shelby also unrestored....either Jan or Feb build date. Might have been to cover bare areas? Looks to be sprayed over redox and not done by owner

02267, 4/30/68 build very similar blacked out area on the over the axle area also.

[corbins]

Go to ppg dealer and get dp74lf. You didn't say what year/palnt you are working on so I can't tell you how to tint

+1 and a qrt of black, same product, to tint with, should you want/need to. And you will, the straight DP74 is just too red out of the can. The black will "brown it down".