Ford J car

[TransamEd]

Saved some pics - from JC - from inside (not outside as gt350hr indicated above for the J car)
This is #148627 (T/A) under wraps and the door #5 GT40 inside




There had been more shots of a Galaxie front clip.
Lee might have saved a few parts he told John at that time.

[Richstang]

Saved some pics - from JC - from inside (not outside as gt350hr indicated above for the J car)
This is #148627 (T/A) under wraps and the door #5 GT40 inside

I guess that would be the '69 T/A car #2 wrecked at Michigan.

[gt350hr]

Saved some pics - from JC - from inside (not outside as gt350hr indicated above for the J car)
This is #148627 (T/A) under wraps and the door #5 GT40 inside




There had been more shots of a Galaxie front clip.
Lee might have saved a few parts he told John at that time.

        It is obvious those pictures were taken BEFORE I was there. Two other friends were with me on the trip and I called their attention to the wreck  for this exact reason. "years from now no one will believe this".  Parts from 627 had already been "field stripped" and my friend Ray Hutson bought some of the front suspension components "I" found in a "wire basket" in the main building ( parts department) just in front of the hallway where the dynos were located. The only vehicle stored in the hangar was the Turbine Truck which I did crawl up and sit in.
     Randy

[6R07mi]

Saved some pics - from JC - from inside (not outside as gt350hr indicated above for the J car)
This is #148627 (T/A) under wraps and the door #5 GT40 inside




There had been more shots of a Galaxie front clip.
Lee might have saved a few parts he told John at that time.

#5 P1047 looks like the condition following the crash at 67 Le Mans with #6 P1015.
Both these cars have been restored, these photos would be no later than 1972 when P1047 was reported to have been repaired by HM and sold to Japan, per my notes.

regards,

jim p

[TransamEd]

The rest of the hangar shows a number of other crashed cars and stripped front and rear ends amongst other parts.

[honker]

TransamEd, great stuff ! I believe the #17 car in your last post is the Ford Honker, Can-Am car that Andretti drove in '67.

[PapaDee]

all I have is a 1:43 model . . . 

[honker]

Came across these images today, I believe to be a screen grab. The info   "suggested"  this is J2 the day of Ken Miles crash at

Riverside during testing. The first two shots are known, here just for reference. I don't know if the others  have been seen here

before ? will be in two posts.

Mike

PS: just looking again at the first two b&w images, there are differences in the car, side scoop, stripe with J7 in second photo,

where those taken different times at Riverside, I read the car was shaken down at Kingman Arizona before going to Riverside for

more tests .  Thoughts ?

[honker]

Last two.

[Richstang]

The photo you noted as Miles Testing is striped as J7. I don't think it is the same J2 car
It was likely captioned incorrectly.

Attached is another view on the same tragic day with J2.

[propayne]

What looks to be a clay mockup - I scanned this from one of my vintage car mags, can't remember off hand which issue.

- Phillip

[98SVT - was 06GT]

From what I found since this thread was started. The first J car was cut up to analyze/test the bonding procedure. Their findings led to them adding the gussets and a steel roll cage to the car. J1 & 2 were the boxy cars the rest of the J chassis that were built became MKIV (and CanAm) cars. They never knew why the car crashed. It was suspected that the 2 speed (developed for drag racing) automatic trans locked up. Phil Remington took Hollywood custom car designer/builder Dean Jefferies to Detroit with him and they (along with some Ford aero guys) developed the MKIV body in Ford's wind tunnel. While there Jefferies spotted one of the earlier GT40s collecting dust in a corner and bought it for a sweetheart deal. The Gurney/Foyt MKIV only ran one race and had very little testing before it got loaded for LeMans.
The "J" designation was because they were designed to compete under the FIA Group J rules.

You can do an online search and find some papers on the bonding considerations for the honeycomb aluminum panels. They were new at the time and development research was ongoing on uses and bonding.

[Side-Oilers]

The photo you noted as Miles Testing is striped as J7. I don't think it is the same J2 car
It was likely captioned incorrectly.

Attached is another view on the same tragic day with J2.

Rich,
I don't think that's RIR.  The trees aren't right, and I can't see any of the half-buried white tires that RIR had all around the track.

[Richstang]

The photo you noted as Miles Testing is striped as J7. I don't think it is the same J2 car
It was likely captioned incorrectly.

Attached is another view on the same tragic day with J2.

Rich,
I don't think that's RIR.  The trees aren't right, and I can't see any of the half-buried white tires that RIR had all around the track.

You're right Van. It looks like a wavy wall in the distance which would make it the Deaborn test track.
I believe that was a Ford captioned photo (published by Consumers Guide) that noted it incorrectly as Riverside. Good catch.
So does anyone know when Miles was testing in Dearboarn? There's nothing in my notes about it.

The other photo with more of a side view was also a Ford photo / caption.
I'm not aware of any other photos of the J2.

It does appear to be Ken Miles driving

[ChicagoChris]

It is my understanding that experimental chassis 'glue' broke free (due to vibration) causing the Miles car to break apart.  Heard this years ago from a (now) deceased FOMO race photographer.