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Are all of the R-models restored? Any photos in progress form?

Started by silverton_ford, January 28, 2018, 01:09:50 AM

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6s1640

The commentator on this video says R-model crash at Hallet, but I don't recognize the car.  I expect it could be a stock GT350 in R-model trim. Any body know this car?
Cory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDt-seNwpbc

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Richstang

Cory, Silverton, great photos. Thanks for sharing!

Here's a photo of the car the parts were placed on. It has the car number in the file name as 6s1570.

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6s1640

Hi Richstang,

You beat me to posting this image, taken from an Ebay auction back in 2007.  I did copy all the photos from the auction. Below is the description from that auction that talks about the Gerber R-model.

Cory

Legitimate 1966 Shelby GT350H (VIN SFR 6S1570) with a unique history.
This car was shipped by Shelby American to Hertz on March 31, 1966.  Some time later in 1966 the car was stolen from Hertz and stripped.  My husband's brother bought the stripped car from Marshall Motors, the Cleveland, Ohio, Shelby dealer.  Along with a friend who owned 6S005, my brother-in-law bought a wrecked Shelby GT350 race car (5R099 -- the Dan Gerber car).  Out of the three cars, they made two.  The stock motor from 6R005 went into 6S1570 and some parts from 5R099 were installed into 6S1570 as well (for example, the roll bar and fiberglass rear package shelf).


silverton_ford

Here are some photos of 5R104.

These photos were just posted on the Facebook site, "Remembering Mack Yates & CSX2385 & 5R104".  I am not sure what the other R-models are in the backgrounds.  Does anyone?

If you have an account you can look at many other photos of CSX2385 on this site:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/643368829056155/

Richstang

Wow, Great find!!!
:o

5r104 photos from back in the day are very rare. I only have three in my file, including one from the registry
The #41 appears to be 5r210 driven by Brad Brooker. These photos are possibly from the 1966 season.
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98SVT - was 06GT

5R001 was restored late 70s when Larry Zane owned it. The guy who built the motor thought it was going to be a museum piece and used hardware store nuts on the rods. One let go at Monterey. Larry had another motor we put in. He then bought a third motor from Randy Gillis that sat in my garage for three+ years. I think that one ended up going with the Donahue car thar Larry owned - it was actually a 6 cylinder car that Penske bought to replace the crashed R Model - if my memory of 30 years ago is right.
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Richstang

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on March 09, 2018, 12:46:48 AM
5R001 was restored late 70s when Larry Zane owned it. The guy who built the motor thought it was going to be a museum piece and used hardware store nuts on the rods. One let go at Monterey. Larry had another motor we put in. He then bought a third motor from Randy Gillis that sat in my garage for three+ years. I think that one ended up going with the Donahue car thar Larry owned - it was actually a 6 cylinder car that Penske bought to replace the crashed R Model - if my memory of 30 years ago is right.

The Donahue car is hard to keep up with. Registry says 5r105 was "lightened up" so much in '65 they had to replace it with a "body in white" for the start of the '66 season. (Was that even a thing back in the mid 60's. I've never hear that term used on anything other than the 2008 and up Cobra Jets powered cars.. These were not the 50 produced each year.) I'm thinking the 6 cylinder car might be this same replacement.

Then when it was sold to Yale Kneeland for the '67 season. A wreck forced them to replace the car's front clip. Later at Marlboro on July 16th, it was rolled in practice. Parts were swapped onto a Hertz rental for the race and removed afterwards. Was that the end of this cars race history? I have to wonder how much of the current car is really 5r105?

Also what about 6s928. Is this Yale's replacement car for the rolled car in early '67?
From what I can tell it was raced though the rest of '67, all of '68, and into '69.


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shelbydoug

Well, one of the questions being raised without asking the question is how many of the R's are really the original cars?

At what point is the car just a "changeling"? The Donahue car is an example of that. No one knows what goes on "behind closed doors" right?

The Gerber car is another.

Those cars for the most part were "nickle racers" and raced hard. Historical value was hardly a consideration back in the day.
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deathsled

Will any R models restored or not restored be present at the Mid America meet this year?  5R002 possibly?

Best regards,

Richard E.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

Coralsnake

I believe that the body-in-white was rare, but  a real thing. I know of a 1969 BIW that was built into a 1969 Shelby. It was assigned a state serial number.
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Richstang

Quote from: Coralsnake on March 21, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
I believe that the body-in-white was rare, but  a real thing. I know of a 1969 BIW that was built into a 1969 Shelby. It was assigned a state serial number.

Thanks for the added input Pete.
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Quote from: Coralsnake on March 21, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
I believe that the body-in-white was rare, but  a real thing. I know of a 1969 BIW that was built into a 1969 Shelby. It was assigned a state serial number.
Very rare. A friend tried to buy a 69 COPO car and wasn't a big enough name then tried to buy a 69 BIW and was told they weren't offered. I believe even CS never got BIW. I think they had one R Model that was sold as a shell with a 66 # because all the parts came off to use as spares. Saleen got some BIW but also all the panels to assemble himself.
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