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1968 GT350 At Mecum

Started by Fastback66, December 14, 2018, 03:46:13 PM

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Fastback66

Not my car; it's coming up for auction at Mecum soon. I was considering having an inspection done, does anyone know anything about this car? What are the big issues you can see in the pictures?

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-357860/1968-shelby-gt350-fastback/

Bigfoot

Car looks very nice. I don't see any spot welding on top of inner fender aprons.
But people used to smooth those out once upon a time.
RIP KIWI
RIP KIWI

Coralsnake

Someone is using fake 1968 hubcaps!    >:(
The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

Chris Thauberger

My personal favorites are the fuel line clamps and the rivets that holds the tail light panel on but hey, Carroll signed the dashboard so I guess I can overlook a few owner personalized items.
Previously owned:
1968 Shelby GT500 Gold Concourse
1973 Cougar
1968 Mustang coupe
1966 Mustang 4 speed vert
1965 Mustang coupe
1968 Cougar
1971 Montego
1968 Torino GT
1966 GT350H clone

Chris Thauberger

Quote from: Bigfoot on December 14, 2018, 05:41:08 PM
Car looks very nice. I don't see any spot welding on top of inner fender aprons.
But people used to smooth those out once upon a time.

Probably because they were replaced.  ;)
Previously owned:
1968 Shelby GT500 Gold Concourse
1973 Cougar
1968 Mustang coupe
1966 Mustang 4 speed vert
1965 Mustang coupe
1968 Cougar
1971 Montego
1968 Torino GT
1966 GT350H clone

CharlesTurner

Not even sure where to start with that one.  Guess it would fall into the 'nice driver' category. ??? ???
Charles Turner
MCA/SAAC Judge

Coralsnake

The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

69mach351w

What's the spot welding thing about? Just curious

prototypefan

During assembly the front and rear aprons overlap onto the shock towers. On the flat horizontal area where the fenders bolt on you can see distinct spot welds.

These overlap areas are very prone to rust.

Lazy shops will hack out the rot and fill the hole with bondo or fiberglass.

Some will sandblast the area to remove the rot and fill with bondo or fiberglass

some will tack or weld in a single piece of metal and fill either side with bondo

proper repair requires cutting out the area and spot welding new metal in

It's one of the easiest areas to spot if a car has corrosion.......and more importantly the level of repair



The most ingenious repair I've seen as I live in a rust belt and most cars here have corrosion in that area was:
sandblasting out the corrosion being sure to get out the black corrosion ensuring it doesn't come back, tacking in a piece of metal in the center of the hole where two layers of metal once was and filling the area with bondo.......then as the bondo was setting.....take and HB pencil and press the eraser into the bondo that is still setting up which leaves a depression the same size as an original spot weld

bring a magnet or paint thickness guage to check the thickness of the paint in this area. Get on your knees and look above the front tires at the same area with a bright flashlight from below......rarely is the area fixed properly from the underside

QuickSilverShelby

Quote from: prototypefan on December 15, 2018, 09:19:52 AM
During assembly the front and rear aprons overlap onto the shock towers. On the flat horizontal area where the fenders bolt on you can see distinct spot welds.

These overlap areas are very prone to rust.

Lazy shops will hack out the rot and fill the hole with bondo or fiberglass.

Some will sandblast the area to remove the rot and fill with bondo or fiberglass

some will tack or weld in a single piece of metal and fill either side with bondo

proper repair requires cutting out the area and spot welding new metal in

It's one of the easiest areas to spot if a car has corrosion.......and more importantly the level of repair



The most ingenious repair I've seen as I live in a rust belt and most cars here have corrosion in that area was:
sandblasting out the corrosion being sure to get out the black corrosion ensuring it doesn't come back, tacking in a piece of metal in the center of the hole where two layers of metal once was and filling the area with bondo.......then as the bondo was setting.....take and HB pencil and press the eraser into the bondo that is still setting up which leaves a depression the same size as an original spot weld

bring a magnet or paint thickness guage to check the thickness of the paint in this area. Get on your knees and look above the front tires at the same area with a bright flashlight from below......rarely is the area fixed properly from the underside
Wow.  That is an amazing description on what to look for in this area.  I never knew any of this and I've once again learned something about my 68 GT500.  I'm gonna head to the garage this weekend and check out this area on my car.

QSS
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

QuickSilverShelby

Quote from: Coralsnake on December 14, 2018, 08:16:11 PM
Someone is using fake 1968 hubcaps!    >:(
When you say "fake" can you elaborate "why" they are fake.  I'm not great at knowing the differences between an original hubcap and the hubcaps on this car and I'm curious about the differences.

QSS
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Chris Thauberger

Center emblems are concave not covex and the ring around them is too large and appears to be chrome. I'm not sure but are these the Chevy version?
Previously owned:
1968 Shelby GT500 Gold Concourse
1973 Cougar
1968 Mustang coupe
1966 Mustang 4 speed vert
1965 Mustang coupe
1968 Cougar
1971 Montego
1968 Torino GT
1966 GT350H clone

Coralsnake

Chris is very good. Original Shelby hubcaps are unique to 1968 Shelbys, these hubcaps were sourced from some other application.
The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

CharlesTurner

Quote from: prototypefan on December 15, 2018, 09:19:52 AM
The most ingenious repair I've seen as I live in a rust belt and most cars here have corrosion in that area was:
sandblasting out the corrosion being sure to get out the black corrosion ensuring it doesn't come back, tacking in a piece of metal in the center of the hole where two layers of metal once was and filling the area with bondo.......then as the bondo was setting.....take and HB pencil and press the eraser into the bondo that is still setting up which leaves a depression the same size as an original spot weld

Another option is to repair the metal, leaving both sides smooth and use an actual spot welder to replicate the original welds.
Charles Turner
MCA/SAAC Judge

Bigfoot

^^
Right

But some people would just leave smooth which in theory should not raise eyebrows except for a concours situation.
And like Charley  said,...can be added later.
RIP KIWI
RIP KIWI