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GT500 Fill tube finish concensus

Started by acman63, March 17, 2019, 04:10:02 PM

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acman63

Black  or bare metal?  running change somewhere?
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: acman63 on March 17, 2019, 04:10:02 PM
Black  or bare metal?  running change somewhere?
Typically black throughout production from my observations..
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shelbydoug

#2
Mine is a washed out yellow cad. There were just three manifolds on ebay with similar tubes. None of them were black.
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Kent

I also have seen them only in black and with the cadmium behind.
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shelbydoug

Black is easy to redo, cad is not. I'm good with that observation from the 'head '67 Judge". I just personally haven't seen any yet in black.
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbydoug on March 19, 2019, 07:39:35 AM
Black is easy to redo, cad is not. I'm good with that observation from the 'head '67 Judge". I just personally haven't seen any yet in black.
Some of my observations include ones where when taking taking out old fill tubes which appear to be bare metal on the top side end that you can see easily and you find black paint residue still on the end that was pushed down into the intake. So you may have seen the black fill tube before just not the black paint because what black paint is left ends up being on the end that you can't see unless you remove it ;)  Just a possibility.
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shelbydoug

Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 19, 2019, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 19, 2019, 07:39:35 AM
Black is easy to redo, cad is not. I'm good with that observation from the 'head '67 Judge". I just personally haven't seen any yet in black.
Some of my observations include ones where when taking taking out old fill tubes which appear to be bare metal on the top side end that you can see easily and you find black paint residue still on the end that was pushed down into the intake. So you may have seen the black fill tube before just not the black paint because what black paint is left ends up being on the end that you can't see unless you remove it ;)  Just a possibility.

I'm ok with it being black. As you suggest, the most likely scenario is that they were all painted and it quickly fell off of the tube? Very plausible.
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CSX 3183

Fill tubes on 427 Cobra's were bare metal finish, as where the engines in NASCAR, for the 427 engine
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: CSX 3183 on March 19, 2019, 07:23:50 PM
Fill tubes on 427 Cobra's were bare metal finish, as where the engines in NASCAR, for the 427 engine
Thank you for the information although unrelated. This is a topic for 67 GT500 as the heading indicates.
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CSX 3183

How true, just giving some info, as "food for thought"
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Bob Gaines

Here are a couple vintage pictures one very early and the other later. Also one that is the typical way they are found on survivor type cars. More food for thought. ;)
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Bob Gaines

The green car was in Popular mechanic . I believe a article about switching valve covers among other things. The BW picture is the first GT500 #100 .
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shelbydoug

Terry Krystofak posted pictures of his 67 GT500 here. I saved them but am having difficulty finding them right now. There are several pictures of the engine compartment.
Personally, I'd weight the results of those pics heavily...whenever I can find them.

As far as other very similar 2x4 Ford intake configurations mentioned, why would they be irrelevant to this discussion?

As in other discussions that involve Ford assembly plant procedures with other components, why would we consider them to not be consistent? I'm not suggesting that there would be any consistent logic of a Ford assembly plant, Heaven forbid, but that logic has been used before and accepted?
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JD

Here are two images I have of Terry's car, both would seem (?) to be black ?

'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelbydoug

#14
Definitely black. It could be dark charcoal metallic?  ;)

Tall yellow cad heater fitting too. (check...got it!)

Black filler caps! Oh no!  :o

Edge of the air cleaner NAT 'LUMINUM! OH!

Thanks JD!  ;D
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